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Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 9, 2021
Published: Dec. 9, 2021
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Scoring Depth for the playoffs
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
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Not sure which team needs to add picks or prospects?
2.
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  1. Hertl, Tomas
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I don’t know how much it would take, added the second for them to also take back Pitlick.
SJS
  1. Heineman, Emil [Reserve List]
  2. Phillips, Matthew
  3. Pitlick, Tyler
  4. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$72,664,166$0$15,000$8,835,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
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UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
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UFA - 2
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$801,666$801,666 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
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C
UFA - 1
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
RW
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Dec. 9, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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Seems like a quantity of assets over quality, not sure San Jose would be interested
Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Monahan will just walk after is contract so MTL decline
We already have Suzuki Dvorak Evans in the middle and Poehling is playing some pretty good hockey
Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Seems like a quantity of assets over quality, not sure San Jose would be interested


Hertl is a pending ufa who said he's not sure if he wants to resign or if SJS wants him back
i think you just dont know Heineman is all

"He's the type that can fit anywhere in the lineup and play any role. There's a strong push to his stride, which gives him added acceleration and top speed while skating in a straight line. He's always got his feet moving, always maintains a high battle-level, and never shies away from making personal sacrifices to improve the two-way health of his team. -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide"

He's a similar Jordan Eberle if that helps at all
Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.
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Monahan will just walk after is contract so MTL decline
We already have Suzuki Dvorak Evans in the middle and Poehling is playing some pretty good hockey


Evans is better off on Wing until he figures out how to get a balance to his two way game
Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Evans is better off on Wing until he figures out how to get a balance to his two way game


Nah Ducharme is full of sh*t, he doesn’t know what he is talking about. Evans is better at center than on the wing
Don’t start defending that clown of a coach we have
Dec. 9, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy739
Hertl is a pending ufa who said he's not sure if he wants to resign or if SJS wants him back
i think you just dont know Heineman is all

"He's the type that can fit anywhere in the lineup and play any role. There's a strong push to his stride, which gives him added acceleration and top speed while skating in a straight line. He's always got his feet moving, always maintains a high battle-level, and never shies away from making personal sacrifices to improve the two-way health of his team. -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide"

He's a similar Jordan Eberle if that helps at all


That sounds good, just doesn’t fit the sharks needs really. They have a ton of winger prospects, they really need center and right defense
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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I would stay away from trading a 1st for a rental. If the player has term, I would consider it though
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:27 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
That sounds good, just doesn’t fit the sharks needs really. They have a ton of winger prospects, they really need center and right defense


No RD prospects but would Gawdin be of interest?
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:28 p.m.
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I would stay away from trading a 1st for a rental. If the player has term, I would consider it though


I feel like this type of hesitation is why Eichel and Stone are on the Golden Knights
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Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
Monahan will just walk after is contract so MTL decline
We already have Suzuki Dvorak Evans in the middle and Poehling is playing some pretty good hockey


Pikey and a few others posts have done in previous threads Monahan + 1st + 2nd for Toffoli and Dvorak. What's your thoughts on that?
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pikey and a few others posts have done in previous threads Monahan + 1st + 2nd for Toffoli and Dvorak. What's your thoughts on that?


I’ve seen that trade proposal, and I’m not convinced that Dvorak is the type of center we need. We need secondary scoring threats, backlund doesn’t give us that, and I don’t know if Dvorak would either. That’s why I’m warming up to the idea of Hertl, and a 2nd line of Hertl with Mang and Toffoli is definitely an offensive threat. Which allows a full on shut down line of Coleman with Backs and Lewis for the playoffs. That was my reasoning
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I feel like this type of hesitation is why Eichel and Stone are on the Golden Knights


I just don't see a rental that makes a ton of sense for the Flames.

On the surface, Hertl does. That being said, there will be a ton of interest and he gets a large say in where he ends up. I doubt it's Calgary.

Giroux makes sense, but again there will be a lot of interest and a full NMC. Forsberg too because he has that RHS, but he plays LW, so not the best fit.

If Treliving can find a deal for a player with term, I'm fine with moving a 1st. The rental market causes me to shy away, there just isn't that slam-dunk, obvious fit like Mark Stone looked to be.
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Pikey_777
I’ve seen that trade proposal, and I’m not convinced that Dvorak is the type of center we need. We need secondary scoring threats, backlund doesn’t give us that, and I don’t know if Dvorak would either. That’s why I’m warming up to the idea of Hertl, and a 2nd line of Hertl with Mang and Toffoli is definitely an offensive threat. Which allows a full on shut down line of Coleman with Backs and Lewis for the playoffs. That was my reasoning


Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think Dvorak is going to outproduce Monahan, however I do think he would fit Sutter's style and has a decent enough cap hit with term to work around for next year. He's also had past chemistry with Tkachuk.

The goal scoring is more in adding Toffoli.

Hertl is interest to me but I don't think he would waive for 1 thing (only has a 3 team trade list). Plus being a rental is just that, Flames would have to pay him big just to stay and I'm definitely not choosing Hertl over Johnny
Dec. 9, 2021 at 8:51 p.m.
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I just don't see a rental that makes a ton of sense for the Flames.

On the surface, Hertl does. That being said, there will be a ton of interest and he gets a large say in where he ends up. I doubt it's Calgary.

Giroux makes sense, but again there will be a lot of interest and a full NMC. Forsberg too because he has that RHS, but he plays LW, so not the best fit.

If Treliving can find a deal for a player with term, I'm fine with moving a 1st. The rental market causes me to shy away, there just isn't that slam-dunk, obvious fit like Mark Stone looked to be.


Giroux also plays LW, that doesnt matter, All of Mangiapane, Coleman, and Dube are more than comfortable on the right side
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think Dvorak is going to outproduce Monahan, however I do think he would fit Sutter's style and has a decent enough cap hit with term to work around for next year. He's also had past chemistry with Tkachuk.

The goal scoring is more in adding Toffoli.

Hertl is interest to me but I don't think he would waive for 1 thing (only has a 3 team trade list). Plus being a rental is just that, Flames would have to pay him big just to stay and I'm definitely not choosing Hertl over Johnny


Ok fair enough, so if additional scoring is the goal, is there a trade to be made for Toffoli without removing core pieces? Like some combo of Pitlick, Ritchie, Lewis, and prospects like Phillips or Heineman plus our 1st? (Maybe a D prospect if needed).
If our second line could be Mang - Money - Toffoli (who have played together before)
Third Line is Coleman - Backs - Lewis (or other trade)
Fourth Line is Lucic - Ruz - Dube
I could get on board with that. But like you said if we need to move Sean for Cal reasons in exchange for Dvorak it could work as well.
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:07 p.m.
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No. Id only be in for Zary or Coranato as the prospect. If you wont offer one of them, Hertl is off the table for me
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:19 p.m.
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No. Id only be in for Zary or Coranato as the prospect. If you wont offer one of them, Hertl is off the table for me


Like only Zary or Coronato? Because if it’s one of them, that’s all the sharks are getting.
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Pikey and a few others posts have done in previous threads Monahan + 1st + 2nd for Toffoli and Dvorak. What's your thoughts on that?


I would do that and Monahan could be flip next year if MTL are out of the picture by the TDL
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Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:36 p.m.
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No RD prospects but would Gawdin be of interest?


I’ve never heard of this person so probably not
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:51 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
I’ve never heard of this person so probably not


Glen Gawdin, 24, 4th year in the AHL with 2 call-ups in this year and last. 6'1 RHS center
18/19 - 38p in 64g
19/20 - 47p in 53g
20/21 - 13p in 22g
21/22 - 21p in 16g

He's not projected to be an elite player but has decent odds of being a middle 6 2-way center
Dec. 9, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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No. Id only be in for Zary or Coranato as the prospect. If you wont offer one of them, Hertl is off the table for me


Lol highly doubt anyone is giving up that caliber of a prospect for him. Prospects like them were barely on the table for Jack Eichel
Dec. 10, 2021 at 12:07 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Glen Gawdin, 24, 4th year in the AHL with 2 call-ups in this year and last. 6'1 RHS center
18/19 - 38p in 64g
19/20 - 47p in 53g
20/21 - 13p in 22g
21/22 - 21p in 16g

He's not projected to be an elite player but has decent odds of being a middle 6 2-way center


Considering his age, the likely hood of him hitting that ceiling is low. Wouldn’t hate it if there’s something else coming with him. Think I’d prefer Zary or Pelletier though
Dec. 10, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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Considering his age, the likely hood of him hitting that ceiling is low. Wouldn’t hate it if there’s something else coming with him. Think I’d prefer Zary or Pelletier though


Zero chance he returns Pelletier or Zary without an extension in place
Dec. 10, 2021 at 12:15 a.m.
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I would do that and Monahan could be flip next year if MTL are out of the picture by the TDL


Montreal doesn't need 1 year of Monahan. They are better off with a few years of Dvorak. See what he can do when the team isn't such a mess.
Monahan would have to perform better, on a worse team, while taking away a development spot, in order to recover what we gave up for Dvorak. Wrong player at the wrong time for Montreal.
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Dec. 11, 2021 at 12:32 a.m.
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Lol highly doubt anyone is giving up that caliber of a prospect for him. Prospects like them were barely on the table for Jack Eichel


That sucks I guess. If they arent they arent but im sure we can do better than this
 
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