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GM Game Master Thread

Mar 23, 2017 at 10:48
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rangersandislesfan
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Edited Jul 25, 2017 at 1:13
OK. Here's a game that people can play if they want where people can pretend to be the GM of a team, and we can make trades and stuff as if it's the offseason (no vegas expansion trades until we get closer to the expansion draft, though you may talk about those trades). You may ask for a team, and i will give you that team if it isn't already taken. My favourite teams are the Rangers and Islanders tied, so i'll be the Islanders. Each person may only be the GM of one team.
Here is the list of GMs (i will update it when someone claims a team):
Anaheim Ducks - TrueNorth https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/345664
Arizona Coyotes - Rodzikhockey93 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/318832
Boston Bruins - Math https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/351495
Buffalo Sabres - mhockey91 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/338089
Calgary Flames - Calgary13 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/295446
Carolina Hurricanes - Zach https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/295062
Chicago Blackhawks - Thornton_MVP https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294720
Colorado Avalanche - ricochetii https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294273
Columbus Blue Jackets - matt59 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/387542
Dallas Stars - DirtyDangles https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/422877 still waiting to hear from TheGiftedYoungRider and DirtyRebound
Detroit Red Wings - plNHL https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294500
Edmonton Oilers - NateElder12 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/79495 taisei is the assistant
Florida Panthers - F50marco https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/57578
Los Angeles Kings - mikeyscav https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294508
Minnesota Wild - Icegirl https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/80305
Montreal Canadiens - DarylthePony https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/411967 Done95 and jeg5393 are the assistants
Nashville Predators - jmac490 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/306385
New Jersey Devils - Bennett93 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54785
New York Islanders - rangersandislesfan https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294270
New York Rangers - TonyStrecher https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/387422 l9guysports is the assistant
Ottawa Senators - JT_Miller https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/299278
Philadelphia Flyers - WerenskiWarrior https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/347858
Pittsburgh Penguins - DavidBooth7 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/316967 Pasta88Sauce is the assistant
San Jose Sharks - TopCornerShot https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/81413
St. Louis Blues - Turner33 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/294262
Tampa Bay Lightning - boltscharge17 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/60625
Toronto Maple Leafs - WhisperWhisper https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/80923
Vancouver Canucks - Bo53Horvat https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/81653
Washington Capitals - Jacketsman61 https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/60124
Winnipeg Jets - Duster https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54754

Vegas Golden Knights - phillyjabroni https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/301572

Vegas is also available. No posting trades unless both GMs agree. Thanks!
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Jun 7, 2017 at 12:28
#7651
Calgary13
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Matt, I saw in the BOG thread that there might be a 2nd version of this game in September. Is that just like everything updated? So everyone's on the same cap hit (some teams are at 76M, while others are at 73M), and everyone understands the rules better? Some people just look at their teams and not around the "league", so I feel like we should make sure every GM knows how to maneuver the forums and knows how to catch up on the "news". And current GM's would get to keep their teams, right? Because I love this game and it's just really fun to me.

Also, I like your idea on the free agents thing, along with rico's. How would it work though? This might be too much, but maybe make a poll on the big name free agents, and have everyone vote on it? Like, people vote on his term and how much the contract is worth? I'm just spitballing. I really want the teams with a player's rights to be able to get the last say on it though, and have a chance to match it. RFA's should be treated like they can't be offered anything from other teams as long as the team with the RFA rights gets people to agree on the contract, and UFA's should be treated like RFA's in real life, so that the "home team" gets last say. I feel like that's the best way to do free agency since the players in this game don't have feelings and we don't know their mindset like "Oh I just want to stay in this place because I like it" or "I just want money". That's my 2 cents
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Jun 7, 2017 at 11:36
#7652
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: ricochetii
Quoting: phillyjabroni


damn thanks guys. what is your guess on what I was writing about?


Thoughts. Sticking Out Tongue


yup
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Jun 7, 2017 at 11:49
#7653
Go Jackets
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Edited Jun 7, 2017 at 11:55
Quoting: Calgary13
Matt, I saw in the BOG thread that there might be a 2nd version of this game in September. Is that just like everything updated? So everyone's on the same cap hit (some teams are at 76M, while others are at 73M), and everyone understands the rules better? Some people just look at their teams and not around the "league", so I feel like we should make sure every GM knows how to maneuver the forums and knows how to catch up on the "news". And current GM's would get to keep their teams, right? Because I love this game and it's just really fun to me.

Also, I like your idea on the free agents thing, along with rico's. How would it work though? This might be too much, but maybe make a poll on the big name free agents, and have everyone vote on it? Like, people vote on his term and how much the contract is worth? I'm just spitballing. I really want the teams with a player's rights to be able to get the last say on it though, and have a chance to match it. RFA's should be treated like they can't be offered anything from other teams as long as the team with the RFA rights gets people to agree on the contract, and UFA's should be treated like RFA's in real life, so that the "home team" gets last say. I feel like that's the best way to do free agency since the players in this game don't have feelings and we don't know their mindset like "Oh I just want to stay in this place because I like it" or "I just want money". That's my 2 cents

Yeah so to address the GM game 2.0 part, it would essentially be an upgraded version of this game. We'd ensure that everything is in place before the game starts so that there's no confusion on rules and such as there was in this game. And yes everything would be much more uniform. GMs who want to play v2 should get to keep their teams, although any GMs who want to change teams are welcome to ask if others would be interested in changing teams.
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:06
#7654
Stars GM for V3
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Quoting: matt59
Quoting: Calgary13
Matt, I saw in the BOG thread that there might be a 2nd version of this game in September. Is that just like everything updated? So everyone's on the same cap hit (some teams are at 76M, while others are at 73M), and everyone understands the rules better? Some people just look at their teams and not around the "league", so I feel like we should make sure every GM knows how to maneuver the forums and knows how to catch up on the "news". And current GM's would get to keep their teams, right? Because I love this game and it's just really fun to me.

Also, I like your idea on the free agents thing, along with rico's. How would it work though? This might be too much, but maybe make a poll on the big name free agents, and have everyone vote on it? Like, people vote on his term and how much the contract is worth? I'm just spitballing. I really want the teams with a player's rights to be able to get the last say on it though, and have a chance to match it. RFA's should be treated like they can't be offered anything from other teams as long as the team with the RFA rights gets people to agree on the contract, and UFA's should be treated like RFA's in real life, so that the "home team" gets last say. I feel like that's the best way to do free agency since the players in this game don't have feelings and we don't know their mindset like "Oh I just want to stay in this place because I like it" or "I just want money". That's my 2 cents

Yeah so to address the GM game 2.0 part, it would essentially be an upgraded version of this game.


I'd like to see a more "SIM" version at some point myself.

- Trade approval process
- Trade restrictions (Limited number of trades per team)
- Asset restrictions (Min/Max draft picks, players under contract, etc.)
- Transaction restrictions/approval (Retention, buyouts, buried contracts, etc.)
- I'd also like a more mature environment and the ability to have hockey discussion/debates without everyone losing their minds, but that would require exclusivity. I'd like to see the ability to have multiple "leagues" running simultaneously, and the tools being available to support that, like each league having their own set of rosters and being able to swap assets between those rosters and have it reflected on both teams.

The goal being to have a more realistic game where big names being moved is the exception rather than the rule and teams are still recognizable as the one they started the season with.
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Jun 7, 2017 at 12:09
#7655
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And for free agency, I think if we can find a way to merge my idea and ricos that'd be best. If we vote on the value of the free agents, that takes the free market fun part out of it a little bit, since people will probably be less likely to make dumb offers. Although I may be misreading what you said about your free agency proposal, as I'm out running around and a I'm a little distracted right now
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:12
#7656
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And I agree with everything Rico said except a number of trades restriction. if we restrict the number of trades a team can make that would probably constrict the market I think.
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:13
#7657
Stars GM for V3
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Quoting: matt59
And for free agency, I think if we can find a way to merge my idea and ricos that'd be best. If we vote on the value of the free agents, that takes the free market fun part out of it a little bit, since people will probably be less likely to make dumb offers. Although I may be misreading what you said about your free agency proposal, as I'm out running around and a I'm a little distracted right now


All I did was put something together that takes the years out of the bidding process and converts them into a "player's demands", then teams decide whether they are willing to meet those demands or drop out. If the player's "demands" are too high, he goes back into the UFA pool and tries again and perhaps lowers his demands the second time around.
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:21
#7658
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rangersandislesfan
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Quoting: matt59
Quoting: Calgary13
Matt, I saw in the BOG thread that there might be a 2nd version of this game in September. Is that just like everything updated? So everyone's on the same cap hit (some teams are at 76M, while others are at 73M), and everyone understands the rules better? Some people just look at their teams and not around the "league", so I feel like we should make sure every GM knows how to maneuver the forums and knows how to catch up on the "news". And current GM's would get to keep their teams, right? Because I love this game and it's just really fun to me.

Also, I like your idea on the free agents thing, along with rico's. How would it work though? This might be too much, but maybe make a poll on the big name free agents, and have everyone vote on it? Like, people vote on his term and how much the contract is worth? I'm just spitballing. I really want the teams with a player's rights to be able to get the last say on it though, and have a chance to match it. RFA's should be treated like they can't be offered anything from other teams as long as the team with the RFA rights gets people to agree on the contract, and UFA's should be treated like RFA's in real life, so that the "home team" gets last say. I feel like that's the best way to do free agency since the players in this game don't have feelings and we don't know their mindset like "Oh I just want to stay in this place because I like it" or "I just want money". That's my 2 cents

Yeah so to address the GM game 2.0 part, it would essentially be an upgraded version of this game. We'd ensure that everything is in place before the game starts so that there's no confusion on rules and such as there was in this game. And yes everything would be much more uniform. GMs who want to play v2 should get to keep their teams, although any GMs who want to change teams are welcome to ask if others would be interested in changing teams.


To tell the truth i actually wasn't sure if we would keep our teams. This is just my opinion but i think we should let the new people come in and play if they want to and let people change teams. We should probably have a poll on it i think.
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:23
#7659
Calgary13
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Maybe we could have GM's post the newly revised rules (whenever they're ready) on their page description so that there's no "Oh I didn't know" excuse
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:27
#7660
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: Calgary13
Maybe we could have GM's post the newly revised rules (whenever they're ready) on their page description so that there's no "Oh I didn't know" excuse


the BOG did. Under "News and Important"
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:28
#7661
Quebec GM v4
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If my two economic history term papers have taught me anything, free market and capitalism are the wave.

I would prefer that we didn't "vote" on the value of FAs. Just let whatever ppl want to offer them offer them. we don't "vote" on trades, so why should we control UFAs but not trades?
Jun 7, 2017 at 12:35
#7662
Stars GM for V3
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Quoting: matt59
And I agree with everything Rico said except a number of trades restriction. if we restrict the number of trades a team can make that would probably constrict the market I think.


Problem is that without it we would end up with the same thing we have here, players never stop moving. If there were multiple leagues however, there could be multiple types of leagues.

Quoting: phillyjabroni
If my two economic history term papers have taught me anything, free market and capitalism are the wave.

I would prefer that we didn't "vote" on the value of FAs. Just let whatever ppl want to offer them offer them. we don't "vote" on trades, so why should we control UFAs but not trades?


I don't see where the voting aspect is coming from?
Jun 7, 2017 at 11:45
#7663
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rangersandislesfan
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So that i can update the list who is the new Philly GM?
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Jun 7, 2017 at 11:56
#7664
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: ricochetii


you imply that there is a problem w/ ppl moving. the best way to improve one's team isnt by restricting the amounts of transactions that occur, that would be counter-intuitive. you should be allowed to trade as frequently or as less as you want.

as for the UFAs, it should be best offer
Jun 8, 2017 at 7:24
#7665
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Just to double check, theres absolutely no way I can get the player I want if Im not live for the pick?
Jun 8, 2017 at 7:31
#7666
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: DirtyRebound
Just to double check, theres absolutely no way I can get the player I want if Im not live for the pick?


correct. unless you notify a BOG member timely with who you want to have picked in your allotted time slot, or by posting your preference list in your team's description, however the ladder is dangerous has BOGs may not be sweeping for preference lists.

I believe that after the 3rd round?, the BOG will be doing BPA regardless of team descriptions.
Jun 8, 2017 at 7:42
#7667
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Quoting: DirtyRebound
Just to double check, theres absolutely no way I can get the player I want if Im not live for the pick?


correct. unless you notify a BOG member timely with who you want to have picked in your allotted time slot, or by posting your preference list in your team's description, however the ladder is dangerous has BOGs may not be sweeping for preference lists.

I believe that after the 3rd round?, the BOG will be doing BPA regardless of team descriptions.


Thats what I mean by the 3rd round being the cutoff. I have 2 picks in the 4th round that I'm not sure I'll be able to make in a 1 hour period and a few players I still want. Just wanted to see if theres anyway I could still get at least one of these players on my list.
Jun 8, 2017 at 8:02
#7668
Stars GM for V3
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Quoting: DirtyRebound
Quoting: phillyjabroni


correct. unless you notify a BOG member timely with who you want to have picked in your allotted time slot, or by posting your preference list in your team's description, however the ladder is dangerous has BOGs may not be sweeping for preference lists.

I believe that after the 3rd round?, the BOG will be doing BPA regardless of team descriptions.


Thats what I mean by the 3rd round being the cutoff. I have 2 picks in the 4th round that I'm not sure I'll be able to make in a 1 hour period and a few players I still want. Just wanted to see if theres anyway I could still get at least one of these players on my list.


That's where having an assistant could be handy. The time between picks gets really short and I don't think any BOG are going to make it for all 31 picks in each round, so the GM's have to somewhat self-process. The only way to do that is to have the GM who's turn it is, skip a number of top ranked players equal to the number of GM's before him that missed their turn. So if it's the turn after yours and no BOG has been present to update, that GM is able to determine who your pick will be and not select that player, then the BOG will fill it in later.

#1 - Misses his turn - BPA is reserved
#2 - Selects - Skips the BPA
#3 - Misses his turn - BPA 2 is reserved
#4 - Selects - Skips BPA 1 and BPA 2
-- Bog updates and assigns BPA 1 & 2
#5 - Selects as normal
#6 - Misses his turn - BPA is reserved
#7 - Selects - Skips BPA
#8 - Misses his turn - BPA 2 is reserved
#9 - Misses his turn - BPA 3 is reserved
#10 - Selects - Skips BPA 1, 2, & 3
-- BOG updates and assigns BPA 1, 2, & 3
#11 - Selects as normal

... etc.
Jun 8, 2017 at 8:13
#7669
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Quoting: ricochetii
Quoting: DirtyRebound


Thats what I mean by the 3rd round being the cutoff. I have 2 picks in the 4th round that I'm not sure I'll be able to make in a 1 hour period and a few players I still want. Just wanted to see if theres anyway I could still get at least one of these players on my list.


That's where having an assistant could be handy. The time between picks gets really short and I don't think any BOG are going to make it for all 31 picks in each round, so the GM's have to somewhat self-process. The only way to do that is to have the GM who's turn it is, skip a number of top ranked players equal to the number of GM's before him that missed their turn. So if it's the turn after yours and no BOG has been present to update, that GM is able to determine who your pick will be and not select that player, then the BOG will fill it in later.

#1 - Misses his turn - BPA is reserved
#2 - Selects - Skips the BPA
#3 - Misses his turn - BPA 2 is reserved
#4 - Selects - Skips BPA 1 and BPA 2
-- Bog updates and assigns BPA 1 & 2
#5 - Selects as normal
#6 - Misses his turn - BPA is reserved
#7 - Selects - Skips BPA
#8 - Misses his turn - BPA 2 is reserved
#9 - Misses his turn - BPA 3 is reserved
#10 - Selects - Skips BPA 1, 2, & 3
-- BOG updates and assigns BPA 1, 2, & 3
#11 - Selects as normal

... etc.


I see what you're saying. I may set up my own BPA list and see if the team picking after me can make mine and his pick at the same time
Jun 9, 2017 at 12:49
#7670
Stars GM for V3
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Everyone remember the draft schedule speeds up. Round 4 has begun.
Jun 9, 2017 at 1:16
#7671
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Quoting: ricochetii
Everyone remember the draft schedule speeds up. Round 4 has begun.


What time does BPA come in play and I can make my pick?
Jun 9, 2017 at 1:18
#7672
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: Turner33
Quoting: ricochetii
Everyone remember the draft schedule speeds up. Round 4 has begun.


What time does BPA come in play and I can make my pick?


whenever your time is ready or the pick before you has picked. BPA kicks in at the end of your allotted time to pick
Jun 9, 2017 at 1:19
#7673
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Quoting: Turner33


What time does BPA come in play and I can make my pick?


whenever your time is ready or the pick before you has picked. BPA kicks in at the end of your allotted time to pick


Lol I'm just waiting on you to pick braa hahaha
Jun 9, 2017 at 1:20
#7674
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Unless you've traded that pick
Jun 9, 2017 at 1:25
#7675
Quebec GM v4
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Quoting: Turner33
Unless you've traded that pick


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