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Trades everyones been talking about

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Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2021
Published: Dec. 14, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
BOS
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. Highmore, Matthew
2.
VAN
  1. Kane, Evander ($3,500,000 retained)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Poolman, Tucker
Buyouts
  • Braden Holtby: $500,000
  • Jake Virtanen: $50,000
Recapture Fees
  • Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$76,785,659$648,780$2,550,000$4,714,341
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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Boeser, Brock
$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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Horvat, Bo
$5,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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DeBrusk, Jake
$3,675,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Kane, Evander
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Motte, Tyler
$1,225,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Lammikko, Juho
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Kane, Evander
$0
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Podkolzin, Vasily
$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Halák, Jaroslav
$1,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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Hunt, Brad
$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Juulsen, Noah
$750,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Sutter, Brandon
$1,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Keeper, Brady
$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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Burroughs, Kyle
$750,000 ($0)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Dowling, Justin
$750,000 ($0)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Chiasson, Alex
$750,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 14, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.
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No one is talking about that boston trade.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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What I have been hearing when it comes to the Boston trade is Miller going the other way and not Pearson. But for Miller Vancouver would need another piece from Boston.

I really like the deals for Vancouver though. Poolman has been the worst signing Benning has ever made, and that is including the Erikkson, beagle, Rousell signings.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
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Boston fans will hate that one. Although DeBrusk has been more ineffective than effective, they seem to believe he is better than he has so far shown. Pearson is a much more proven and complete player and Rutherford only does this to create cap flexibility. Rutherford values character and the absence of any at all in Kane make this a hard no.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Feelers4Ehlers
What I have been hearing when it comes to the Boston trade is Miller going the other way and not Pearson. But for Miller Vancouver would need another piece from Boston.

I really like the deals for Vancouver though. Poolman has been the worst signing Benning has ever made, and that is including the Erikkson, beagle, Rousell signings.


Boston would have to add quite a bit for Miller as DeBrusk isn't that much at all. The kid often has so little impact on a game, he reminds of the other Jake......Virtaanen.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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We're not retaining half and sending a 4th. Really bad management by SJ.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 2:47 p.m.
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Boston would have to add quite a bit for Miller as DeBrusk isn't that much at all. The kid often has so little impact on a game, he reminds of the other Jake......Virtaanen.


virtanen's best year was debrusk worst year don't even compare them you got a kid who had 1 rough year compared to a bust.

pearson is not worth the same as debrusk every year but 2019/20 in terms of ppg debrusk has out produced pearson. even in debrusk worst year which people called him a bust for he still produced the same as pearson. a big thing too is debrusk is freshly turned 25 and has time to breakout again given new scenery pearson is 29 and hasnt looked really much more then an average 3rd liner since he was playing top 6 minutes with way better players lined with him making him look good.

the point of trading debrusk is too improve our squad whether we have to add or not bruins will not move a 3LW for a 3LW if boston moves debrusk for a player of similiar talent it will be for a player of similiar age that plays C or RW(righty as well)

the targets i could see being moved 1 for 1 are strome or labanc. pearson is of no interest to boston.

move on from that trade as you are only gonna get ripped on from the bruins community

B's have made it pretty clear C and LHD are their target of needs
what has came out is that players like
Miller
Hertl
both stromes
Manson
Lindholm are players they have been interested in

also considering most SJ fans have been good to a E kane 50% for debrusk trade id much rather have a proven 60 point scorer that is 29 and hope bergy and marchy can help him change as a person.

sorry but pearson is at the bottom of our target list if we were to acquire to trade him it wouldn't be for debrusk i might offer lazar and a 4th maybe or just a 3rd
Dec. 14, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.
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We're not retaining half and sending a 4th. Really bad management by SJ.


I would consider anything to move Kane, my best idea so far would be Kane 50% for Ferland.
Vancouver would then pay for this year and next with actual dollars allocated to an injury reserve player and San Jose could add Ferland to their LTIR and get 3.5 mil in cap space.
so if Kane was Humbled and had no more issues Vancouver gets a guy who at worst is a 25-30 goal scorer for essentially 7 mil more actual dollars over 3 1/2 years than they would have paid for virtually nothing.
that's a win win for both teams.
Its a risk for sure 1 Kane would end up destroying the sharks every time we played Vancouver but Vancouver runs the risk he has more issues and they have to get rid of him themselves, but at 3.5 a year vs 7 its a risk i think a GM might make.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Boldirev
Boston fans will hate that one. Although DeBrusk has been more ineffective than effective, they seem to believe he is better than he has so far shown. Pearson is a much more proven and complete player and Rutherford only does this to create cap flexibility. Rutherford values character and the absence of any at all in Kane make this a hard no.


It’s not necessarily that, it’s that the vast majority of trades on here are for things that the bruins have no interest in. Pearson, kassian etc. bruins would be better off just telling debrusk to go home and that they’re not going to qualify him.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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Boston fans will hate that one. Although DeBrusk has been more ineffective than effective, they seem to believe he is better than he has so far shown. Pearson is a much more proven and complete player and Rutherford only does this to create cap flexibility. Rutherford values character and the absence of any at all in Kane make this a hard no.


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Boston would have to add quite a bit for Miller as DeBrusk isn't that much at all. The kid often has so little impact on a game, he reminds of the other Jake......Virtaanen.


25 years old, has one bad season during covid, where he was very expressive how he didnt deal with quarantining well and separation from the team and stuff like that. this is clear recency bias. kid puts up 3 straight 40+ pace seasons.. has the covid year, and the bruins bring in taylor hall and he gets a demotion to 3rd line. debrusk asks for trade because he knows hes not getting bumped up over marchand or hall. simple as that.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
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What I have been hearing when it comes to the Boston trade is Miller going the other way and not Pearson. But for Miller Vancouver would need another piece from Boston.

I really like the deals for Vancouver though. Poolman has been the worst signing Benning has ever made, and that is including the Erikkson, beagle, Rousell signings.


I'm sorry, but if you think Poolman is down their with Eriksson, Beagle, and Roussel as another irrevocable dead weight signing by Benning, then you clearly haven't watched enough Canucks games this year
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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It’s not necessarily that, it’s that the vast majority of trades on here are for things that the bruins have no interest in. Pearson, kassian etc. bruins would be better off just telling debrusk to go home and that they’re not going to qualify him.


I am quite sure Boston goes another way, but so does Vancouver. While the sentiment is that Pearson doesn't fill Boston's most pressing needs, the same can be said for Vancouver with respect to DeBrusk.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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virtanen's best year was debrusk worst year don't even compare them you got a kid who had 1 rough year compared to a bust.

pearson is not worth the same as debrusk every year but 2019/20 in terms of ppg debrusk has out produced pearson. even in debrusk worst year which people called him a bust for he still produced the same as pearson. a big thing too is debrusk is freshly turned 25 and has time to breakout again given new scenery pearson is 29 and hasnt looked really much more then an average 3rd liner since he was playing top 6 minutes with way better players lined with him making him look good.

the point of trading debrusk is too improve our squad whether we have to add or not bruins will not move a 3LW for a 3LW if boston moves debrusk for a player of similiar talent it will be for a player of similiar age that plays C or RW(righty as well)

the targets i could see being moved 1 for 1 are strome or labanc. pearson is of no interest to boston.

move on from that trade as you are only gonna get ripped on from the bruins community

B's have made it pretty clear C and LHD are their target of needs
what has came out is that players like
Miller
Hertl
both stromes
Manson
Lindholm are players they have been interested in

also considering most SJ fans have been good to a E kane 50% for debrusk trade id much rather have a proven 60 point scorer that is 29 and hope bergy and marchy can help him change as a person.

sorry but pearson is at the bottom of our target list if we were to acquire to trade him it wouldn't be for debrusk i might offer lazar and a 4th maybe or just a 3rd


I don't doubt Boston doesn't make the Pearson trade, as it clearly doesn't fill a need. However, IMO the value would be fine. I have seen Jake play quite a few times and he just doesn't bring it often enough shift to shift, never mind game to game. My point with respect to comparing the two Jakes was not point based, but the penchant for disappearing that both have displayed regularly in their short careers. I find it puzzling that so many Boston fans hold him in such high esteem, yet are quite happy to run him out of town. IF DeBrusk were part of a Miller trade (balance the cap?), I suspect the real value would be in the other assets attached to the trade. I would hope so anyway.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:45 p.m.
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I am quite sure Boston goes another way, but so does Vancouver. While the sentiment is that Pearson doesn't fill Boston's most pressing needs, the same can be said for Vancouver with respect to DeBrusk.


No issue with that. I think I agree. Not making an ACGM is way better than just throwing up something like this.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:49 p.m.
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25 years old, has one bad season during covid, where he was very expressive how he didnt deal with quarantining well and separation from the team and stuff like that. this is clear recency bias. kid puts up 3 straight 40+ pace seasons.. has the covid year, and the bruins bring in taylor hall and he gets a demotion to 3rd line. debrusk asks for trade because he knows hes not getting bumped up over marchand or hall. simple as that.


They brought in Hall BECAUSE DeBrusk was not progressing....no? Maybe I'm wrong ( I've only watched 5 Bruins games this year) but it's not like Jake is playing like he deserves top six minutes.
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Dec. 14, 2021 at 4:53 p.m.
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They brought in Hall BECAUSE DeBrusk was not progressing....no? Maybe I'm wrong ( I've only watched 5 Bruins games this year) but it's not like Jake is playing like he deserves top six minutes.


No. They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not? Debrusk was playing poorly in the covid season. The other thing to keep in mind here is he’s playing with a black hole of a center. It’s one of my many many issues with the bruins management, which is one of the worst in the league. Instead of, “hmmm, lets see what happens when Jake is playing with a center that knows how to skate,” they instantly go to, “healthy scratch.” Top to bottom bruins management is disastrous.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 5:17 p.m.
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They brought in Hall BECAUSE DeBrusk was not progressing....no? Maybe I'm wrong ( I've only watched 5 Bruins games this year) but it's not like Jake is playing like he deserves top six minutes.


Debrusk struggled last year, i think coaching staff got frustrated with him. but they tried playing nick ritchie over him. it didnt work. they liked debrusk at 3lw. i like debrusk at 3 lw (when he actually brings his game) they brought in hall to take ritchies spot and for that cost why not get a guy thats been a 50+ point performer, no brainer move to do so. Major part of debrusks issues last year was that they kept forcing him to play offhand. he very clearly cannot play right wing. hes a true left shot left winger.
Dec. 14, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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No. They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not? Debrusk was playing poorly in the covid season. The other thing to keep in mind here is he’s playing with a black hole of a center. It’s one of my many many issues with the bruins management, which is one of the worst in the league. Instead of, “hmmm, lets see what happens when Jake is playing with a center that knows how to skate,” they instantly go to, “healthy scratch.” Top to bottom bruins management is disastrous.

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"They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not?"
They brought him in cause Debrusk had fallen off last year and probably wasn't in bostons plan for the future. After all he is an RFA
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"They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not?"
Its evident that DeBrusk is not in Bostons future plans and thats why they brought in Hall. After all he is an RFA this year
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"They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not?"
They brought him in cause Debrusk had fallen off last year and probably wasn't in bostons plan for the future. After all he is an RFA


"They brought in hall to bolster the team, and because with that price tag, how could they not?"
Its evident that DeBrusk is not in Bostons future plans and thats why they brought in Hall. After all he is an RFA this year


Are you drunk?

First off, what i said is just inherently true.

Second, what does that have to do with the cap? Bruins weren’t in cap trouble at the time, nor are they now.
 
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