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Pre-deadine bottom 6 fixes

Created by: SupremeBone
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2021
Published: Dec. 15, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
The bottom-6 needs an infusion of new blood and the team needs a coach that can and will rely on them enough to play consistent minutes. No more 4th lines getting 5 or fewer minutes/night. That's a recipe for the complete collapse of their confidence.

Also, no more stacking the 1st line with Drai & McDavid for half a game because the team is down; it messes with the flow of the team.

If Tippett isn't willing to do this, find someone who is.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Eakin, Cody ($600,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. 2023 4th round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Larsson, Johan
  2. 2022 4th round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
The Oilers need lower event hockey in their bottom-6 and Larsson has a track record of precisely that kind of hockey.
ARI
  1. Kassian, Zack ($500,000 retained)
  2. Shore, Devin
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Kassian needs to go. Not sure what's appropriate value in such a deal, but I guess I break it down like:

Half the value of the 1st to be free of Kassian
The other half of the 1st + a warm body for Larsson + the 4th
3.
EDM
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
Additional Details:
Fast, responsible, and has enough skill to score. Get this team another Finn.
MTL
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
  2. 2024 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
A boom-bust sniper that gets to work his way toward playing for his hometown team.

Cond. pick: becomes 2023 3rd if Oilers get past the 1st round
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Zack Kassian: $500,000 (15.63%)
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
Buried
  • Mikko Koskinen: $3,375,000 ($4,500,000)
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,289,468$669,339$990,000$4,210,532

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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Lehkonen, Artturi
$1,150,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
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Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,175,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
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Larsson, Johan
$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Eakin, Cody
$1,650,000
C
UFA - 1
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Sceviour, Colton
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Benson, Tyler
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
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Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Skinner, Stuart
$750,000
G
RFA - 2
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Niemeläinen, Markus
$817,500
LD
RFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Stalock, Alex
$785,000
G
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Nugent-Hopkins, R.
Hyman, Z.
Draisaitl, L.
Barrie, T.
McDavid, C.
Power Play 2
Yamamoto, K.
Puljujärvi, J.
Lehkonen, A.
Bouchard, E.
Nurse, D.
Penalty Kill 1
Larsson, J.
Yamamoto, K.
Nurse, D.
Bouchard, E.
Penalty Kill 2
Eakin, C.
Lehkonen, A.
Niemeläinen, M.
Ceci, C.

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Dec. 15, 2021 at 7:48 a.m.
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It's adorable that cody eakin is considered a fix
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:12 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It's adorable that cody eakin is considered a fix


Hahaha oh trust me, there are VERY few timelines where he would be an upgrade on anything, but we just happen to be in one such timeline tears of joy He'd only be a marginal improvement, but that's an improvement nonetheless!
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:18 a.m.
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As much as I like Lehky, where do I sign?! You could have had Lehky for a 2nd maybe a 3rd.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:31 a.m.
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As much as I like Lehky, where do I sign?! You could have had Lehky for a 2nd maybe a 3rd.


Good to know that he may be cheaper than I anticipate! I pretty much view Lavoie as worth a 3rd and I think a 3rd + a 4th is pretty close in value to a 2nd.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:47 a.m.
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Yeah I'd take that for Lehky, Lavoie could become a slower Anderson with better skills and those two would be a nice 1-2 punch of power forwards.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
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Good to know that he may be cheaper than I anticipate! I pretty much view Lavoie as worth a 3rd and I think a 3rd + a 4th is pretty close in value to a 2nd.


I thought Lavoie would be worth more with the way some Oilers fans on here tout him around lol. Even still good value well done
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:16 a.m.
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I thought Lavoie would be worth more with the way some Oilers fans on here tout him around lol. Even still good value well done


Like all fans, Oilers fans have a tendency to overvalue prospects that showed signs of offensive ability in junior.

I don't think he's done enough to warrant being worth even the slot he was picked in currently. He still has a wonderful set of tools that he could easily turn into an NHL career, but he lacks a number of characteristics that make me confident that such a thing will happen.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:18 a.m.
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Really???? Habs Jump at this and pay for Lehky's first class plane ticket out West! A great defensive player who's shot can't hit the broad side of a barn unfortunately.
Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:27 a.m.
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Really???? Habs Jump at this and pay for Lehky's first class plane ticket out West! A great defensive player who's shot can't hit the broad side of a barn unfortunately.


I'm noticing that there's a HUGE variance in how Habs fans value Lehkonen tears of joy
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:39 a.m.
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I'm noticing that there's a HUGE variance in how Habs fans value Lehkonen tears of joy


Lehkonen is super good defensively and has the tools to put up 20 goals periodically but like SCGLisme2 says can't always convert his chances so one year he may put up 18 goals but the next he may only get 7 goals. if he could consistently put up 15-20 goals he would be worth a lot more, unfortunately he can't so a 2nd is the most we would get for him.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:41 a.m.
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I’m dead set against moving kass just because once you do your suddenly looking for another version of him and finding one that can skate and move like him easier said than done. Issue I’m seeing with him is he’s alot more effective and engaged in games given top six minutes and yam is the guy in between kinda making that a tough choice. In my opinion moving yam can open the window for some more effective overall line combos. Considering a big part of the issues upfront is a lack of depth shooters Lavoie is very quickly becoming off the table for me has size and excellent shot that we could use sooner rather than later.
Dec. 15, 2021 at 9:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
I’m dead set against moving kass just because once you do your suddenly looking for another version of him and finding one that can skate and move like him easier said than done. Issue I’m seeing with him is he’s alot more effective and engaged in games given top six minutes and yam is the guy in between kinda making that a tough choice. In my opinion moving yam can open the window for some more effective overall line combos. Considering a big part of the issues upfront is a lack of depth shooters Lavoie is very quickly becoming off the table for me has size and excellent shot that we could use sooner rather than later.


I wholeheartedly disagree with pretty much every aspect of your post.

I'm not even remotely interested in adding another player "like Kassian". Do I appreciate the value physical players can bring? Absolutely and I'm a big proponent of it! However, physicality at the expense of any semblance of defensive ability isn't worth it. He's a defensive burden and is prone to FAR too many mistakes to a.) cut it in the bottom-6 and b.) be deserving of a top-6 spot. If the ONLY way he can "be engaged" is by playing top-6 minutes, he can get the hell out. Guys like Hyman, Foegele, and Holloway (when he makes it) are the kinds of 'physical' players I want: active, engaged, consistent, and multi-faceted players.

Despite his scoring flaws, Yamamoto is precisely the kind of guy this team needs more of. Not in physical dimensions, but in effort. He gives his all and, even when he's not scoring, he's contributing to the team by killing penalties, drawing penalties, and usually not getting outscored. Ideally, he'd be on a 3rd line. I refuse to trade away a skilled player like Yamo simply "because they don't score enough" when that's EXACTLY what we've needed in our bottom-6 for over a decade. The lack of scoring will even help keep his next contract cheap.

I have issues with Lavoie. The only quality of his game that I'd be prepared to call NHL-level is his shot; the rest of it is in need of substantial improvement. His skating is average at best, he's inconsistent, his defensive ability is lacking, and his off-puck positioning suggests he doesn't understand a shooter's role at the pro level. Not going to say he'll never become anything, but these constitute pretty big hurdles for him to overcome. In any case, I'm confident that he won't make the Oilers for at least 2 years. I'd happily trade that in for a low variance, established bottom-6 player any day.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 10:27 a.m.
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I'm noticing that there's a HUGE variance in how Habs fans value Lehkonen tears of joy


Easily one of the best bottom 6 forwards and penalty killers in the league. The problem is his lack of consistency offensively.

Some fans expect more from him and don't place proper value on the skills he does have. Those fans are wrong. He is what he is at this point. Production is a bonus and not what he should be judged by, that's not his role.

While a 2nd (ish) is a fair return for a bottom 6 player, however good that player may be, I'd argue that keeping Lehkonen is more valuable than acquiring a 2nd.
Less PK work and defensive responsibility for our top 6 forwards. Help for our goaltenders while our defense develops. Less pressure on prospects and defense having reliable support in their own end.

For the right prospect, I'd consider it. Not sure that's Lavoie. A RHD would be more enticing. Somebody close to NHL ready.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
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Easily one of the best bottom 6 forwards and penalty killers in the league. The problem is his lack of consistency offensively.

Some fans expect more from him and don't place proper value on the skills he does have. Those fans are wrong. He is what he is at this point. Production is a bonus and not what he should be judged by, that's not his role.

While a 2nd (ish) is a fair return for a bottom 6 player, however good that player may be, I'd argue that keeping Lehkonen is more valuable than acquiring a 2nd.
Less PK work and defensive responsibility for our top 6 forwards. Help for our goaltenders while our defense develops. Less pressure on prospects and defense having reliable support in their own end.

For the right prospect, I'd consider it. Not sure that's Lavoie. A RHD would be more enticing. Somebody close to NHL ready.


I agree with this take but it will all depend on the Cap hit for his next contract. If he want too much then than a bottom 6 should have then I would try for that 2nd pick, otherwise I like the player!
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
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I agree with this take but it will all depend on the Cap hit for his next contract. If he want too much then than a bottom 6 should have then I would try for that 2nd pick, otherwise I like the player!


$2.5M and under 3 years is about the limit.
Hopefully with MB gone the days of $3.4M x 4 years for bottom 6ers are over.
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Dec. 15, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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$2.5M and under 3 years is about the limit.
Hopefully with MB gone the days of $3.4M x 4 years for bottom 6ers are over.


Agreed, like preaching to the choir brother!
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