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After paying Bettmans bribe at the draft

Created by: MountRoyal
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2021
Published: Dec. 16, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Habs can outbid Arizona if they need to!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3$2,250,000
Lehkonen, Artturi3$2,700,000
Pezzetta, Michael2$850,000
Teasdale, Joël2$800,000
Schueneman, Corey1$800,000
Vejdemo, Lukas1$850,000
Primeau, Cayden2$975,000
Brook, Josh2$850,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Harris, Jordan2$925,000
Wright, Shane3$925,000
Gaucher, Nathan3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
ARI
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
Condition on Dvorak trade
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (SJS)
ARI
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Happens at draft. Despite himself, Drouin is nonetheless on pace for about 45-50 points on a bad team. Arizona has 3 forwards under contract for the 2022-2023 season, unlinely they'll sign 12 UFAs. They take a chance that Drouin finds his game a bit better in the desert away from pressure and spotlight. They also realize that, if things don't work out, its one year and Drouin can be flipped with more retention at the 2023 TDL. The 4th is conditional on Drouin playing at least 50 games for the Coyotes, if not, the pick is not exchanged
3.
MTL
  1. Ruzicka, Adam [RFA Rights]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
At 2022 TDL
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
    Traded for Chiarot at 50% retained at 2022 TDL, with Turris coming back also as a cap dump
    5.
    MTL
    1. 2023 4th round pick (NSH)
    NSH
      For Kulak at 2022 TDL
      6.
      MTL
      1. 2023 6th round pick (MIN)
      MIN
        for Perreault at 2022 TDL, as a depth addition for playoffs
        7.
        MTL
        1. Moore, John
        2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
        BOS
        1. Clague, Kale [RFA Rights]
        Additional Details:
        Rare Bruins-Habs trade, but merely a cap dump transaction of little real consequnce for either team
        Buyouts
        • Karl Alzner: $833,333
        Retained Salary Transactions
        • Jonathan Drouin: $1,500,000 (27.27%)
        DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
        2022
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        2023
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        2024
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$82,500,000$81,200,000$1,132,500$1,352,500$1,300,000
        Left WingCenterRight Wing
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        Poehling, Ryan
        $750,000
        C, LW
        RFA - 1
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        Suzuki, Nick
        $7,875,000
        C
        UFA - 8
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        Caufield, Cole
        $880,833
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
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        Hoffman, Mike
        $4,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Wright, Shane
        $925,000
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        Anderson, Josh
        $5,500,000
        RW, LW
        NTC
        UFA - 5
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        Lehkonen, Artturi
        $2,700,000
        LW, RW
        RFA
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        Dvorak, Christian
        $4,450,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 3
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        Gallagher, Brendan
        $6,500,000
        RW
        NMC NTC
        UFA - 5
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        Byron, Paul
        $3,400,000
        LW, RW, C
        UFA - 1
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        Evans, Jake
        $1,700,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 3
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        Armia, Joel
        $3,400,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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        Edmundson, Joel
        $3,500,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 2
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        Petry, Jeff
        $6,250,000
        RD
        NMC NTC
        UFA - 3
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        Price, Carey
        $10,500,000
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 4
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        Romanov, Alexander
        $2,250,000
        LD/RD
        RFA
        Harris, Jordan
        $925,000
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        Allen, Jake
        $2,875,000
        G
        UFA - 1
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        Guhle, Kaiden
        $894,167
        LD
        RFA - 2
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        Savard, David
        $3,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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        Pezzetta, Michael
        $850,000
        LW, RW
        RFA
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        Weber, Shea
        $7,857,143
        RD
        UFA - 4
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        Moore, John
        $2,750,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
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        Norlinder, Mattias
        $859,167
        LD
        RFA - 2

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        Dec. 16, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
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        yotes decline. no one is paying a 2nd+ to take drouin at the draft. just take his $5.5m into free agency.
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 8:51 a.m.
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        I'm a believer that if you retain 50% on Drouin you can get a 1st for him. Not often you can get a 50 point player at a cap hit under 3 million. It also works for MTL because they only retain for a year of they choose to start getting rid of other, longer contracts 2023 off season
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:01 a.m.
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        I like these deals, and I really like your draft picks. But I doubt Arizona are the ones buying a rental.
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        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:12 a.m.
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        Quoting: DirtyDangle
        yotes decline. no one is paying a 2nd+ to take drouin at the draft. just take his $5.5m into free agency.


        Arizona might for reasons of the 50% retention and that they have only 3 NHL forwards under contract next season and they'll need to sign or trade for at least 9 more. I realize they are in perpetual tank mode but they do have to dress a few players and meet the cap floor, and they may even figure that they could play him top line minutes, perhaps boost his value, and flip him for a better return in 2023. He is a pure skill player who struggles with pressure and spotlight, playing in a system, and playing with consistency. Fortunately, none of those things would be required of him in Arizona and it might be the only team he could sort of thrive on. I don't think its the craziest scenario. Nor is a 2nd round pick 3 years from now some sort of outrageous haul.
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:24 a.m.
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        Quoting: MountRoyal
        Arizona might for reasons of the 50% retention and that they have only 3 NHL forwards under contract next season and they'll need to sign or trade for at least 9 more. I realize they are in perpetual tank mode but they do have to dress a few players and meet the cap floor, and they may even figure that they could play him top line minutes, perhaps boost his value, and flip him for a better return in 2023. He is a pure skill player who struggles with pressure and spotlight, playing in a system, and playing with consistency. Fortunately, none of those things would be required of him in Arizona and it might be the only team he could sort of thrive on. I don't think its the craziest scenario. Nor is a 2nd round pick 3 years from now some sort of outrageous haul.


        az will have no shortage of cap dump offers where they get picks instead of trade picks. if they try and flip him they risk an injury. there are better options out there for az.
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:30 a.m.
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        Quoting: MountRoyal
        Arizona might for reasons of the 50% retention and that they have only 3 NHL forwards under contract next season and they'll need to sign or trade for at least 9 more. I realize they are in perpetual tank mode but they do have to dress a few players and meet the cap floor, and they may even figure that they could play him top line minutes, perhaps boost his value, and flip him for a better return in 2023. He is a pure skill player who struggles with pressure and spotlight, playing in a system, and playing with consistency. Fortunately, none of those things would be required of him in Arizona and it might be the only team he could sort of thrive on. I don't think its the craziest scenario. Nor is a 2nd round pick 3 years from now some sort of outrageous haul.


        A 50% retained salary doesn't really help them meet the floor. They may be more interested in a player like Lucic after Calgary pays his bonus since he would only cost their ownership $1m for a $5.25m cap hit. That's the type of player they'd be interested in to ice a full roster and reduce costs. Drouin at 50% retained would be good for a team like Minnesota who needs to fit in players who can score, but won't have a ton of cap space to make it all work.
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        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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        Quoting: JayTea
        A 50% retained salary doesn't really help them meet the floor. They may be more interested in a player like Lucic after Calgary pays his bonus since he would only cost their ownership $1m for a $5.25m cap hit. That's the type of player they'd be interested in to ice a full roster and reduce costs. Drouin at 50% retained would be good for a team like Minnesota who needs to fit in players who can score, but won't have a ton of cap space to make it all work.


        That makes sense. To Minnesota then, retained, for a future pick, maybe with a few conditions on it depending on how well or poorly he performs. Lucic to Arizona makes a ton of sense for next summer
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 9:37 a.m.
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        Quoting: SevenLeg
        I like these deals, and I really like your draft picks. But I doubt Arizona are the ones buying a rental.


        Quoting: JayTea
        A 50% retained salary doesn't really help them meet the floor. They may be more interested in a player like Lucic after Calgary pays his bonus since he would only cost their ownership $1m for a $5.25m cap hit. That's the type of player they'd be interested in to ice a full roster and reduce costs. Drouin at 50% retained would be good for a team like Minnesota who needs to fit in players who can score, but won't have a ton of cap space to make it all work.


        I see Vancouver as a more likely destination for Drouin if he is moved the problem is going from a late 1st to 9th OVA in value so lets assume we retain 2 mil on Drouin and add the Oilers pick from Chiarot trade (assume it is in about 20th spot) then we add Tuch does this get us to 9th IDK but it would be worth a look to see what Vancouver would want to add to Drouin + 20th OVA for 9th OVA maybe a deal could be struck.
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        Dec. 16, 2021 at 11:58 a.m.
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        flames reject
        Dec. 16, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
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        Edited Dec. 16, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
        Quoting: Campabee
        I see Vancouver as a more likely destination for Drouin if he is moved the problem is going from a late 1st to 9th OVA in value so lets assume we retain 2 mil on Drouin and add the Oilers pick from Chiarot trade (assume it is in about 20th spot) then we add Tuch does this get us to 9th IDK but it would be worth a look to see what Vancouver would want to add to Drouin + 20th OVA for 9th OVA maybe a deal could be struck.


        Yeah, for Minnesota it depends on if they'd see Drouin as a winger or center (which at this point probably should be a winger). They probably won't need any wingers unless they trade a few away that they have.
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