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Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2021-22 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 17, 2021
Published: Dec. 17, 2021
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Think about this stat for a second: There is not one parent on the Devils roster.



Bernier was the last. And only a handful are married.

I have seen a number of Devils fans fans saying the cure to our recent slide should be "Toughness", "Muscle", "Physicality", "Grit".

I could not disagree more. Lack of size is not our problem.

Bahl 6'6" 216 lbs
Bastian 6'4" 205 lbs
Geertsen 6'4" 205 lbs
Graves 6'5" 220 lbs
Hamilton 6'6" 229 lbs
Jaros 6'3" 222 lbs
Siegenthaler 6'3" 210 lbs
Vesey 6'3" 205 lbs

And we play physical enough for our style, which is built on possession, speed, transition. (Please don't use the stat for "hits" as a proxy for physicality...its a useless stat that only indicates you are playing often without the puck).


Priorities should be

1. Focus / mental toughness / organization.
2. Defensive zone exits (and related, shortening our shift times)
3. Net front play (screening goalie, tipping shots and cleaning up rebounds)
4. Reducing shot attempts blocked
5. Increasing blocked shots on our opponents attempts
6. Finishing

(#2-5 are in many ways related to #1. #6 will come if we improve #1-5).


What's not on that list....

1. More fighting, grit, retribution hits
2. More "bro" videos for the socials
3. Ridiculous looking 'flow' and mustaches
4. Streaming your xbox
5. Having a 12-year old running the team social media account.

If there were to be one rule: What would Lou do.

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What we need is an adult or two to show the kids how to be a professional. Every team we play takes a run at Jack Hughes. That is not going to change. If the best player on the opposing team was 20 years old, 5'10" 170 lbs (probably more like 150 lbs)...we would do the same.

When Scott Stevens told his teammates to "be the man", he didn't mean go beat some guy up. He meant, Step up! Be prepared, be responsible, be mature, be professional and be accountable to your teammates. And do your f*ing job.

We need more O'Reilly's or Slavins or Greenes...not Wilsons or Gudas's. We need adults. We need maturity. We need SEROIUS people.

The moves below are just some examples of guys I think would help. There are probably countless others who would fit.

This has to come from top. And yes, we may need to adjust some of the coaching. But I would also say player leadership as well. Miles Wood will return, should get an "A" and Jesper Bratt should be considered for an "A". Michael McLeod, based on his maturation over last couple years, should also get consideration.


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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:45 a.m.
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        I post sometimes
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        Habs made the conscious decision to sign Gally instead of Tatar, so I don't see this trade happening.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.
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        Quoting: MTLaveragefan
        Habs made the conscious decision to sign Gally instead of Tatar, so I don't see this trade happening.


        Thanks. Wasn’t really proposing as a trade, but was trying to add “types” to help cure our ills (in short, lack of focus and maturity).
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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        If he’s available, NJ should try to trade for Brendan Dillon
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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        andy greene’s honestly been pretty solid this season considering how old he is. i feel like he gets a bad rap because he gets lumped in with chara but as a third pair PK guy he’s super useful and has solid numbers. i’m a big fan of his. could def see him going back to the devils next year to play his last season as a third pair guy.
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
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        What I took away from this post:

        The Devils need a parental figure
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:09 p.m.
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        Quoting: Roysboy72
        What I took away from this post:

        The Devils need a parental figure


        The Devils need to BE parental figures
        They don’t need a babysitter.
        They do need to be more professional.
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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        You need JVR.

        Net front presence, good veteran, comes cheap and just this yr and next on contract.

        Not a long term solution, but a short term injection of professionalism and production.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: bagelbob
        andy greene’s honestly been pretty solid this season considering how old he is. i feel like he gets a bad rap because he gets lumped in with chara but as a third pair PK guy he’s super useful and has solid numbers. i’m a big fan of his. could def see him going back to the devils next year to play his last season as a third pair guy.


        I’d love for him to get a cup, but would be great to have him back for year.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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        Solid post. I like it.
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:52 p.m.
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        I think the Devils would be a good landing spot for Tarasenko personally. You don't get any more adult than Big Daddy Vladdy.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 12:55 p.m.
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        Complaining about the team's social media and that they have no parents on the team the most boomer **** of all time
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 1:15 p.m.
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        JVR
        JT Miller
        Toe Blake


        I like Gally not his contract
        Need some scoring- Forsberg, no kids but....https://mobile.twitter.com/erin_alvey
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        maybe
        Anderson but I dont like his contract either
        Gourde again contract
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 1:16 p.m.
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        Perhaps a Joe Pavelski would fit if the Stars are willing to trade him?
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        Dec. 17, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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        Some good points and some points i slightly disagree on. Yeah we have arguably one of the biggest set of defensemen in the league, but we are also the softest team to play against. You know why teams take runs at Jack and the some of the other players? Its because no one sticks up for themselves. Hughes won't fight anyone. Zacha, Yegor, Kuokkanen, Seigenthaler, Bratt, Tatar wont either.

        And I'm not talking about getting a goon strictly for fighting. But this group is the type to get pushed around and not push back. You're correct in saying that we don't need goons, we need adults...but i think we also just need to change our mentality as a team. We have too many of the "skill" type players and not enough of the gritty, get in your face, pest type players. So your comparisons above could be good fits for our roster, but i think its our mentality that needs to change.

        We need to have an F U mentality and not just skate away when we get pushed around. Also...one thing that i think a ton of devils fans are forgetting about is that Miles Wood hasn't played this year. Wood is literally the type of player that the devils are missing currently. You get him and maybe 1-2 more physical/hard-nosed players and then i think we are competitive
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 2:02 p.m.
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        Nah.
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        Quoting: Roysboy72
        What I took away from this post:

        The Devils need a parental figure


        The Devils need Ryan Reaves.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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        Yes, please follow this advice Devils.....please.
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
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        Some good points and some points i slightly disagree on. Yeah we have arguably one of the biggest set of defensemen in the league, but we are also the softest team to play against. You know why teams take runs at Jack and the some of the other players? Its because no one sticks up for themselves. Hughes won't fight anyone. Zacha, Yegor, Kuokkanen, Seigenthaler, Bratt, Tatar wont either.

        And I'm not talking about getting a goon strictly for fighting. But this group is the type to get pushed around and not push back. You're correct in saying that we don't need goons, we need adults...but i think we also just need to change our mentality as a team. We have too many of the "skill" type players and not enough of the gritty, get in your face, pest type players. So your comparisons above could be good fits for our roster, but i think its our mentality that needs to change.

        We need to have an F U mentality and not just skate away when we get pushed around. Also...one thing that i think a ton of devils fans are forgetting about is that Miles Wood hasn't played this year. Wood is literally the type of player that the devils are missing currently. You get him and maybe 1-2 more physical/hard-nosed players and then i think we are competitive


        I dont disagree but not on all the names you mentioned. Siegs I think can be S#!tty, I feel like he is still finding his spot. Zacha isn't horrible, but could be tougher. But all in all you are correct. I thought of a guy like Barzal. Hes got a bunch of Jack in him but hes got some Gourde as well and I think that is what you are talking about! After looking at this I agree we gotta toughen up (not goon)
        Dec. 17, 2021 at 3:46 p.m.
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        They need an Ondrej Palat at least that's what your rant says to me.
         
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