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Created by: Jobob77

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2021

Published: Dec. 17, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Having fun and trying to find good destinations for our players.

Possible trades before 2022 TDL:

PIT & MTL
Zucker and Gallagher have horrible contracts but Gally would be more useful than Zuck especially in the playoffs.

MTL & ARI
Protected pick

MTL & WSH
Chiarot would be awesome with Carlson. He showed that he could play big minutes and he was solid during the playoffs. It would give a break to Fehervary even if he is not bad at all.

MTL & WPG
WPG could use a good defensive forward such as Lekhonen with their lack of forward depth. The duo Stanley-Wideman is interesting.

MTL & ANA
I think that ANA could use a better 3LHD.

MTL & COL
Allen would be a cheap option for the next 2 years.

MTL & NYR
Good and cheap goalscorer for your top 6

For the moment Drouin, Hoffman, Armia, Petry and Price doesn’t have a good value. Wait for the offseason or the next TDL to move them.

Trades

MTL

Zucker, Jason
2022 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Gallagher, Brendan

MTL

2022 1st round pick (MTL)

ARI

2022 1st round pick (CAR)

MTL

Kempný, Michal
2023 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)

MTL

DeMelo, Dylan
2023 4th round pick (WPG)
2024 2nd round pick (WPG)

WPG

MTL

2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
2022 5th round pick (TOR)

ANA

Kulak, Brett
2022 3rd round pick (ANA)

MTL

Francouz, Pavel
2023 2nd round pick (COL)
2023 3rd round pick (COL)

COL

Allen, Jake ($1,375,000 retained)
Paquette, Cédric

MTL

2022 2nd round pick (STL)
2023 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

Toffoli, Tyler

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Ben Chiarot: $1,750,000 (100%)
Jake Allen: $1,375,000 (47.83%)

Buried

Michal Kempný: $1,375,000 ($2,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$69,624,227	$597,561	$1,475,000	$11,875,773

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dauphin, Laurent $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4
Clague, Kale $761,250$761,250 LD/RD RFA - 1	DeMelo, Dylan $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Francouz, Pavel $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Niku, Sami $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Perreault, Mathieu $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1

Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:38 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Gallagher and Zucker have horrible contracts but unfortunately Gallagher's one is three times longer. Wrong team is giving up the pick here.

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Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:43 p.m.

Jah1722

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The ducks don’t need a better 3LD. Benoit and Mahura are just fine.

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Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:48 p.m.

Pensfan89

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Quoting: justaBoss

Gallagher and Zucker have horrible contracts but unfortunately Gallagher's one is three times longer. Wrong team is giving up the pick here.

Could honestly argue Zuckers contract isn’t even horrible. It’s only one more year and he’s just snake bitten. He generates tons of offensive chances. Just for whatever reason can’t bury them as often unless he is with Crosby. Gallagher’s body is starting to fail him. So idk how he’d be better in the playoffs lol.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.

Jobob77

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Quoting: Pensfan89

Based this trade on PIT fans ACGM that were giving 2x 2nd (+ Légaré) + Zuck for Gally.

Gally is well known for his outstanding performances during the playoffs.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.

BatVader

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“WPG could use a good defensive forward such as Lekhonen with their lack of forward depth”….lack of what???
The duo Stanley-Wideman is interesting… no, no it’s not… it’s really not… not even a little bit.
Jets decline. Not paying that for a bottom 6 winger we don’t need and a downgrade on our bottom pairing RD.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:55 p.m.

Jobob77

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Quoting: Jah1722

The ducks don’t need a better 3LD. Benoit and Mahura are just fine.

Yesh they are not that bad but i was seeing a fit there for Kulak. He could also fit elsewhere.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 10:59 p.m.

Jobob77

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Quoting: BatVader

Jets decline… way to much to pay for Lehkonen and Wideman

A second for Lekhy is the estimated price. Wideman vs Demelo was for the salary cap. May be a bit to much but I find it interwting for both parties.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.

BatVader

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Quoting: Jobob77

A second for Lekhy is the estimated price. Wideman vs Demelo was for the salary cap. May be a bit to much but I find it interwting for both parties.

He’s not worth a 2nd to Winnipeg. LW is our position of strength.
Not downgrading the RD for cap reasons and adding a 4th on top of it

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:06 p.m.

Jobob77

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He can play either on the left or on the right. Svechnikov, Toninato and Harkins aren’t as good as Lekhy.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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Quoting: Jah1722

The ducks don’t need a better 3LD. Benoit and Mahura are just fine.

Big fan of what Benoit has been doing so far

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:10 p.m.

#11

Jah1722

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Big fan of what Benoit has been doing so far

And he’s only 23. Shattenkirk is the weak link on D.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:11 p.m.

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IconicHawk

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Quoting: Jobob77

He can play either on the left or on the right. Svechnikov, Toninato and Harkins aren’t as good as Lekhy.

Svech was playing Connor and Dubois and played like what he should’ve been with Detroit and is still doing just fine without them

I prefer Harkins because he’s younger with more upside

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:16 p.m.

#13

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: Jah1722

And he’s only 23. Shattenkirk is the weak link on D.

And somehow has like 18 points so far

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Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:22 p.m.

#14

Windjammer

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Terrible for Winnipeg. The Jets are giving up a RH defenseman they need for a bottom 6 winger they have no use for and a healthy scratch. Nothing in it for Winnipeg.

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:24 p.m.

#15

Jobob77

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Quoting: IconicHawk

Svech was playing Connor and Dubois and played like what he should’ve been with Detroit and is still doing just fine without them

I prefer Harkins because he’s younger with more upside

Can understand but 2 years younger and he never had a season with more than 15 points :/

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Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:26 p.m.

#16

Jobob77

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Quoting: Windjammer

Terrible for Winnipeg. The Jets are giving up a RH defenseman they need for a bottom 6 winger they have no use for and a healthy scratch. Nothing in it for Winnipeg.

An healthy scratch with almost 0,5PPG in a losing team …

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:29 p.m.

#17

GMs

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Quoting: IconicHawk

Svech was playing Connor and Dubois and played like what he should’ve been with Detroit and is still doing just fine without them

I prefer Harkins because he’s younger with more upside

Harkins will never be half good as Lehkonen lmao what I’m I reading

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:48 p.m.

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DogDayCaps2

down bad

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“ Chiarot would be awesome with Carlson. He showed that he could play big minutes and he was solid during the playoffs. It would give a break to Fehervary even if he is not bad at all”

Fehervary Is better than Chiarot… Capitals don’t need to give up a 1st for a guy that isn’t an upgrade over any of our LSD. This odd narrative that we need to upgrade our LSD is just silly. MF is a rookie and he’s playing top minutes and look amazing. Why would you want to have him take a step back and replace him with an inferior player? Seems unnecessary. Wasting assets that we desperately need

Dec. 17, 2021 at 11:50 p.m.

#19

Jah1722

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

And somehow has like 18 points so far

He’s lucky or people might actually notice how bad he is.

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Dec. 18, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.

#20

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: BatVader

Idk, the Jets bottom six is junk, Lehkonen would be an improvement on most if not all of them.

Dec. 18, 2021 at 12:31 a.m.

#21

Windjammer

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Quoting: Jobob77

An healthy scratch with almost 0,5PPG in a losing team …

Still would be Winnipeg's 8th best defenseman at most.

Dec. 18, 2021 at 12:37 a.m.

#22

ricochetii

Go Habs Go

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Blake Coleman just signed a $4.9M x 6 year contract at 30 years old and has touched a 30 goal pace once.

Gallagher is signed for $6.5M x 6 years and had held a 30 goal pace for 4 consecutive years. If he were a free agent this season, he would have gotten at least that much on the open market. He's also a little younger.

Let's stop pretending he's a cap dump.

Dec. 18, 2021 at 2:21 a.m.

#23

Pensfan89

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Quoting: Jobob77

Based this trade on PIT fans ACGM that were giving 2x 2nd (+ Légaré) + Zuck for Gally.

Gally is well known for his outstanding performances during the playoffs.

I haven’t seen any pens fans trade that for gally. And if they did they are terrible. And my point was that Gally’s body is starting to fail him and if he is injured and not hitting/scoring then he will be no better than Zucker.

Dec. 18, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.

#24

brgh4life

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Zucker's playoffs in Pittsburgh - 10 games, 4 goals, 5 points.
Gallagher during that same time - 31 games, 3 goals, 10 points.

It's not an upgrade for Pittsburgh, nor is it worth a 1st to take on that contract. I know some pens fans have made comments, but I would rather just extend Rust instead of giving up any draft capital.

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