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Initial Creation Date: Dec. 17, 2021
Published: Dec. 18, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Power, Owen3$925,000
Johnson, Ryan2$875,000
Levi, Devon3$875,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Fiala, Kevin5$6,000,000
Olofsson, Victor3$4,000,000
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka1$900,000
Murray, Brett1$800,000
Bryson, Jacob1$925,000
Joseph, Mathieu1$1,200,000
Ruotsalainen, Arttu1$850,000
MacInnis, Ryan1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kuemper, Darcy2$4,000,000
Pysyk, Mark2$1,300,000
Subban, Malcolm1$850,000
Jankowski, Mark1$850,000
Manson, Josh3$5,000,000
Bjugstad, Nick1$1,200,000
Malone, Sean1$800,000
Schuldt, Jimmy1$800,000
Oglevie, Andrew1$800,000
Caggiula, Drake1$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Cooley, Logan3$925,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (ARI)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (ARI)
  3. 2023 4th round pick (ARI)
  4. 2023 6th round pick (ARI)
ARI
    Random picks from the TDL
    2.
    BUF
    1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
    MIN
    1. Mittelstadt, Casey
    2. 2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
    3.
    BUF
    1. 2022 4th round pick (NYI)
    NJD
    1. Bjork, Anders
    4.
    BUF
    1. Joseph, Mathieu [RFA Rights]
    TBL
    1. 2023 4th round pick (BUF)
    Buyouts
    • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
    • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$63,343,334$0$3,037,500$19,156,666

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
    Fiala, Kevin
    $6,000,000
    RW, LW
    RFA
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    Cozens, Dylan
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Quinn, Jack
    $894,167
    RW
    RFA - 2
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    Skinner, Jeff
    $9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Krebs, Peyton
    $863,333
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
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    Tuch, Alex
    $4,750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
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    Asplund, Rasmus
    $825,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Thompson, Tage
    $1,400,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Olofsson, Victor
    $4,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
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    Girgensons, Zemgus
    $2,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Bjugstad, Nick
    $1,200,000
    C, RW
    UFA
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    Okposo, Kyle
    $6,000,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Dahlin, Rasmus
    $6,000,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
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    Jokiharju, Henri
    $2,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Kuemper, Darcy
    $4,000,000
    G
    UFA
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    Samuelsson, Mattias
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Manson, Josh
    $5,000,000
    RD
    UFA
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    Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
    $900,000
    G
    RFA
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    Power, Owen
    $925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
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    Pysyk, Mark
    $1,300,000
    RD, RW
    UFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Jankowski, Mark
    $850,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    Joseph, Mathieu
    $1,200,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA
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    Bryson, Jacob
    $925,000
    LD/RD
    RFA

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Fiala, K.
    Cozens, D.
    Olofsson, V.
    Quinn, J.
    Dahlin, R.
    Power Play 2
    Krebs, P.
    Bjugstad, N.
    Skinner, J.
    Thompson, T.
    Power, O.

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    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:10 p.m.
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    Umn no. As much I want Casey home, fiala is way better than a Casey Middlestat, and 2nd round pick
    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
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    TB says thanks but no You very much undervalue Joseph
    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.
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    BUF shouldn't be going for Fiala. I don't see him re-signing for term on there.
    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: GophersBenJ
    Umn no. As much I want Casey home, fiala is way better than a Casey Middlestat, and 2nd round pick


    Mitts looked like a completely different player once Granato took over the team last year. It wouldn't be a bad gamble for MN. It'll be a high 2nd rounder and low cost center with good upside coming back.
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    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: wabit
    BUF shouldn't be going for Fiala. I don't see him re-signing for term on there.


    Right, I mean they have the money and I think this roster is a little closer than people thing. Replace the vets with a stronger group with the young guys taking another step and they can be dangerous pretty quickly
    Dec. 18, 2021 at 7:57 p.m.
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    Buffalo shouldn't trade for Fiala, who didn't do a long-term deal in the summer, because he was scared of being sent to Buffalo for Eichel. He isn't going to sign with you guys. And for the trade itself, the Wild decline anyway. Mittelstadt is not as dynamic as Fiala, and a 2nd round pick is not going to change that, especially since it's in 2023 and won't make a difference in years.
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    Dec. 18, 2021 at 10:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: wabit
    Mitts looked like a completely different player once Granato took over the team last year. It wouldn't be a bad gamble for MN. It'll be a high 2nd rounder and low cost center with good upside coming back.


    Is philly pick in 23 a high 2nd rounder?
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.
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    Quoting: GophersBenJ
    Is philly pick in 23 a high 2nd rounder?


    It's a random 2nd, likely top-45. Mitts is the prize, not the draft pick. Getting a young center for Fiala is what MN needs.
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    Dec. 19, 2021 at 7:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: EccE
    Buffalo shouldn't trade for Fiala, who didn't do a long-term deal in the summer, because he was scared of being sent to Buffalo for Eichel. He isn't going to sign with you guys. And for the trade itself, the Wild decline anyway. Mittelstadt is not as dynamic as Fiala, and a 2nd round pick is not going to change that, especially since it's in 2023 and won't make a difference in years.


    Where did that come from? All I saw over the summer was the Wild we're hesitant to offer him a long-term deal, everything I read said Fiala wanted a longer contract.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 7:26 a.m.
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    Quoting: wabit
    Mitts looked like a completely different player once Granato took over the team last year. It wouldn't be a bad gamble for MN. It'll be a high 2nd rounder and low cost center with good upside coming back.


    And really who else are they going to get as a center? Fans on here keep saying Fiala is only going if a top 6 center is coming back without giving suggestions on which team is willing to move a top 6 center or how do you resign Fiala if they don't move him? Mittelstadt and a 2nd isn't a bad offer. He improves the team immediately and still could develop further.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 7:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: JayTea
    Where did that come from? All I saw over the summer was the Wild we're hesitant to offer him a long-term deal, everything I read said Fiala wanted a longer contract.


    My source is basically "trust me bro" and various smaller nuggets of info. But basically, where that came from is from the fact Fiala wasn't able to get a NTC before 2023-24, when the new deal would have started buying UFA years. One of the reasons his asking price was so high was the fact that Guerin could have signed him to a, let's say, 7-year extension and then traded him where-ever. Then Fiala would just have had to play for a rebuilding franchise for years.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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    Edited Dec. 19, 2021 at 11:22 a.m.
    Quoting: EccE
    My source is basically "trust me bro" and various smaller nuggets of info. But basically, where that came from is from the fact Fiala wasn't able to get a NTC before 2023-24, when the new deal would have started buying UFA years. One of the reasons his asking price was so high was the fact that Guerin could have signed him to a, let's say, 7-year extension and then traded him where-ever. Then Fiala would just have had to play for a rebuilding franchise for years.


    His asking price was high because it was well publicized that Guerin was going to make Kaprizov the highest AAV in Wild history off of 62 games. Fiala hasn't shown he can consistently produce on a larger sample size, why would Guerin offer him a bunch of money long-term with NTCs? Russo (who is a lot more connected than either of us) wrote numerous times that Fiala wanted term, it was Guerin who didn't want to sign him that long. Sorry, you're really reaching to connect this to him not wanting to play for Buffalo while trying to play it off as fact.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 11:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: JayTea
    His asking price was high because it was well publicized that Guerin was going to make Kaprizov the highest AAV in Wild history off of 62 games. Fiala hasn't shown he can consistently produce on a larger sample size, why would Guerin offer him a bunch of money long-term with NTCs? Russo (who is a lot more connected than either of us) wrote numerous times that Fiala wanted term, it was Guerin who didn't want to sign him that long. Sorry, you're really reaching to connect this to him not wanting to play for Buffalo while trying to play it off as fact.


    As I said, I'm not playing it as a fact. It's pure speculation, like any negotiation. But it is a fact that Fiala wants to win. And he wouldn't be doing a lot of that in Buffalo. Russo actually reported that Fiala opted to take just one year instead of two (and become a UFA in 2023) in arbitration because he wanted the Eichel-saga to end before committing for any longer than a year.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: EccE
    Buffalo shouldn't trade for Fiala, who didn't do a long-term deal in the summer, because he was scared of being sent to Buffalo for Eichel. He isn't going to sign with you guys. And for the trade itself, the Wild decline anyway. Mittelstadt is not as dynamic as Fiala, and a 2nd round pick is not going to change that, especially since it's in 2023 and won't make a difference in years.


    Quoting: EccE
    As I said, I'm not playing it as a fact. It's pure speculation, like any negotiation. But it is a fact that Fiala wants to win. And he wouldn't be doing a lot of that in Buffalo. Russo actually reported that Fiala opted to take just one year instead of two (and become a UFA in 2023) in arbitration because he wanted the Eichel-saga to end before committing for any longer than a year.


    The bolded part sure sounds like you're trying to present a fact instead of an opinion.
    Dec. 19, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: JayTea
    The bolded part sure sounds like you're trying to present a fact instead of an opinion.


    I'm not. It's speculation based on reports and the imagination of a fan. Nothing to be pressed about. My main point was that Fiala unlikely stays in Buffalo long-term if traded there. I'm sure you agree with me there.
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