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Eichel Package

Created by: hazard
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2021
Published: Dec. 20, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Ritchie, Nick
  3. Niemelä, Topi [Reserve List]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Holl, Justin
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Buried
  • Travis Dermott: $375,000 ($1,500,000)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,258,116$0$400,000$241,884
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1

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Dec. 20, 2021 at 10:29 p.m.
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Leafs wouldn't do that deal for a position that isn't needed that much. Really not cap compliant and more issues next season with Reilly and other wanting raises.
Dec. 20, 2021 at 10:44 p.m.
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How is that the Eichel package? You are comparing Ritchie to Tuch
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Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:27 p.m.
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Chychrun didn't play for the Soo Greyhounds so I doubt this trade happens.
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Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is that the Eichel package? You are comparing Ritchie to Tuch


No hes not. What he means by “Eichel Package” is the amount of assests returning. In the Eichel deal, there was 4 assests, which included a player that could slot into the lineup now, a prospect would could slot into the lineup now or the following season, and 2 high round draft picks, ideally a 1st round and 2nd round pick. A lot of hickey insiders have reported that if a Chychrun trade were to happen, that a trade structured like the Eichel trade would be the most likely scenario
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Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:19 a.m.
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Might just be a 3rd round pick, but Minnesota isn't taking on Justin holl , and the cap ensuring with him
Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs wouldn't do that deal for a position that isn't needed that much. Really not cap compliant and more issues next season with Reilly and other wanting raises.


Next season is next season tho, thats a later problem. Could be a mrazek deal, kerfoot deal, could even be a Muzzin deal that helps them get out of it.

Muzzin already showing signs of decline, and this trade doesnt take anyone off the current roster, just makes them better now and for the long run
Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
How is that the Eichel package? You are comparing Ritchie to Tuch


Eichel got a blue chip prospect, a solid player in Tuch, and a 1st+2nd.

Instead of the solid player, I added 2 blue chip prospects, the 1st, and the 2nd. Ritchie is to balance the books, as ARI will still need him to get to cap floor, especially after Kessel is traded later this season
Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Chychrun didn't play for the Soo Greyhounds so I doubt this trade happens.


I didn't think of this. Damn
Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: GophersBenJ
Might just be a 3rd round pick, but Minnesota isn't taking on Justin holl , and the cap ensuring with him


Could really be any team that is looking for defensive depth. EDM, ANA and others that are other options. Just chose MIN cause thats where Holl is from
Dec. 21, 2021 at 1:50 a.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
No hes not. What he means by “Eichel Package” is the amount of assests returning. In the Eichel deal, there was 4 assests, which included a player that could slot into the lineup now, a prospect would could slot into the lineup now or the following season, and 2 high round draft picks, ideally a 1st round and 2nd round pick. A lot of hickey insiders have reported that if a Chychrun trade were to happen, that a trade structured like the Eichel trade would be the most likely scenario


No they've stated that Arizona wants a return of similar value to Eichel. Not just 4 assets
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Dec. 21, 2021 at 1:53 a.m.
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Quoting: hazard
Eichel got a blue chip prospect, a solid player in Tuch, and a 1st+2nd.

Instead of the solid player, I added 2 blue chip prospects, the 1st, and the 2nd. Ritchie is to balance the books, as ARI will still need him to get to cap floor, especially after Kessel is traded later this season


Neither of those prospects are in the same league as Krebs. Together they have around the same value as Krebs, maybe a slight bit more. Still missing the entire value of Tuch and then add in the negative value of Ritchie
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Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Neither of those prospects are in the same league as Krebs. Together they have around the same value as Krebs, maybe a slight bit more. Still missing the entire value of Tuch and then add in the negative value of Ritchie


What? Robertson is just about equal to Krebbs lol. He's an extremely highly touted player. Niemela is RD and won dman of the tournament last year during the world juniors... They are blue chips lol.

Ritchie doesn't have negative value. As I said, they need players to also reach the capfloor. With Chyk off, thats 4.6 and another 3.4 for Kessel, thats 8 mill. They also... need players to play for them lmao

Would Kerfoot instead of Niemela be better?
Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:17 a.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
No hes not. What he means by “Eichel Package” is the amount of assests returning. In the Eichel deal, there was 4 assests, which included a player that could slot into the lineup now, a prospect would could slot into the lineup now or the following season, and 2 high round draft picks, ideally a 1st round and 2nd round pick. A lot of hickey insiders have reported that if a Chychrun trade were to happen, that a trade structured like the Eichel trade would be the most likely scenario


Except Ritchie is nowhere close to as good as Tuch
And the prospects aren’t on the level of Krebs
This package is quite LESS VALUABLE than the “Eichel package”

If someone’s gonna call it that, they should keep the overall value roughly the same
Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:20 a.m.
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What? Robertson is just about equal to Krebbs lol. He's an extremely highly touted player. Niemela is RD and won dman of the tournament last year during the world juniors... They are blue chips lol.

Ritchie doesn't have negative value. As I said, they need players to also reach the capfloor. With Chyk off, thats 4.6 and another 3.4 for Kessel, thats 8 mill. They also... need players to play for them lmao

Would Kerfoot instead of Niemela be better?


Neither Ritchie, nor Kerfoot, have any kind of value when it comes to getting players like Chychrun

And Roberson is not on the same level as Krebs as a prospect

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Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:34 a.m.
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What? Robertson is just about equal to Krebbs lol. He's an extremely highly touted player. Niemela is RD and won dman of the tournament last year during the world juniors... They are blue chips lol.

Ritchie doesn't have negative value. As I said, they need players to also reach the capfloor. With Chyk off, thats 4.6 and another 3.4 for Kessel, thats 8 mill. They also... need players to play for them lmao

Would Kerfoot instead of Niemela be better?


Robertson has had a handful of injuries now and his hype train has really fallen off. He had a good D+1 year but nothing really impressive since. He's still a fine prospect but Krebs definitely has a higher ceiling and plays a more important role.

Niemela is also fine but again you are over valuing him. He is not blue chip, he is not an A+ prospect.

How does Ritchie not have negative value? Come on man take off your blinders here.

You would have to add Kerfoot and not remove Niemela, i really dont yhink you get *** far off the value is
Dec. 21, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Robertson has had a handful of injuries now and his hype train has really fallen off. He had a good D+1 year but nothing really impressive since. He's still a fine prospect but Krebs definitely has a higher ceiling and plays a more important role.

Niemela is also fine but again you are over valuing him. He is not blue chip, he is not an A+ prospect.

How does Ritchie not have negative value? Come on man take off your blinders here.

You would have to add Kerfoot and not remove Niemela, i really dont yhink you get *** far off the value is


Niemela not an blue chip? Dude, the youngster is 19 years old and is leading the LaLiga in points as a defenseman. If not leading, very close to leading. He was named WJC best defenseman last year and his game keeps improving by the day.
Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:19 p.m.
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Niemela not an blue chip? Dude, the youngster is 19 years old and is leading the LaLiga in points as a defenseman. If not leading, very close to leading. He was named WJC best defenseman last year and his game keeps improving by the day.


So Nils Lundkvist 2.0, blue chip is the elite of the elite prospects. A+ level. Guys very l8kely to be top line/pair players.
 
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