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Fixing Flyers Problems

Created by: Scomen
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2021
Published: Dec. 20, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Philadelphia Flyers
Team Explanation
Team's old, tryna get some youth back.
Take the trades how you will
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Attard, Ronnie1$893,712
Brink, Bobby2$901,324
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Frost, Morgan3$1,200,000
Highmore, Matthew2$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Wideman, Chris4$1,300,000
Holden, Nick1$900,000
Koskinen, Mikko2$1,200,000
Yandle, Keith2$950,000
Brassard, Derick3$1,166,666
Rooney, Kevin2$996,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
Three way trade that sees Charlie Coyle going to the Sabres with Vegas second rounder going to Bruins. Bruins first rounder goes to Philadelphia.
BOS
  1. Hayes, Kevin
2.
PHI
  1. Thompson, Tage
Additional Details:
To Buffalo:
Charlie Coyle
BUF
    From Buffalo:
    Tage Thompson -> Philadelphia
    2023 Vegas 2nd rounder -> Boston
    3.
    PHI
    1. Highmore, Matthew [RFA Rights]
    2. 2023 4th round pick (VAN)
    Additional Details:
    Conditional third, (Based on how long-term his injury is)
    Plays in more than 50% of games due to injury, bumps down to a 5th.
    VAN
    1. MacEwen, Zack [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
    • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
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    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$82,500,000$71,506,702$295,000$1,062,500$10,993,298

    Roster

    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Farabee, Joel
    $5,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 6
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    Couturier, Sean
    $7,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Atkinson, Cam
    $5,875,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    van Riemsdyk, James
    $7,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Thompson, Tage
    $1,400,000
    C, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Konecny, Travis
    $5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
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    Lindblom, Oskar
    $3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
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    Frost, Morgan
    $1,200,000
    C
    RFA
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    Brink, Bobby
    $901,324
    RW
    RFA - 2
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    Laughton, Scott
    $3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
    Rooney, Kevin
    $996,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA
    Highmore, Matthew
    $775,000
    LW, RW
    RFA
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Sanheim, Travis
    $4,675,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    Ellis, Ryan
    $6,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
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    Hart, Carter
    $3,979,000
    G
    RFA - 2
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    Provorov, Ivan
    $6,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
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    Attard, Ronnie
    $893,712
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Koskinen, Mikko
    $1,200,000
    G
    UFA
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    Yandle, Keith
    $950,000
    LD
    UFA
    Wideman, Chris
    $1,300,000
    RD
    UFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Willman, Max
    $750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
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    Brassard, Derick
    $1,166,666
    LW, C
    UFA
    Holden, Nick
    $900,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 1

    Special Teams

    Power Play 1
    Atkinson, C.
    Couturier, S.
    Konecny, T.
    Farabee, J.
    Ellis, R.
    Power Play 2
    van Riemsdyk, J.
    Thompson, T.
    Brink, B.
    Sanheim, T.
    Frost, M.
    Penalty Kill 1
    Couturier, S.
    Laughton, S.
    Provorov, I.
    Attard, R.
    Penalty Kill 2
    Rooney, K.
    Atkinson, C.
    Sanheim, T.
    Wideman, C.

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    Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:50 p.m.
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    pretty specific numbers for brink and attard
    Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:51 p.m.
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    Why are Canucks paying for a guy they gave you for free?
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    Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    Why are Canucks paying for a guy they gave you for free?


    MacEwan > Chiasson 100%
    Highmore injured: 100% of the time
    Dec. 20, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
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    Charlie Coyle has an NMC. He is not waiving it to leave the team he grew up dreaming of playing to go to Buffalo.
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    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.
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    Charlie Coyle has an NMC. He is not waiving it to leave the team he grew up dreaming of playing to go to Buffalo.


    They could always put pressure in waiving his NMC.
    Canucks did it with Schmidt.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:05 a.m.
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    They could always put pressure in waiving his NMC.
    Canucks did it with Schmidt.


    Schmidt wanted out.

    They can’t pressure him
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.
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    Schmidt wanted out.

    They can’t pressure him


    https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31900083/vancouver-canucks-trade-nate-schmidt-winnipeg-jets-source-says
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/31900083/vancouver-canucks-trade-nate-schmidt-winnipeg-jets-source-says

    Schmidt would be reunited with Krebs and Tuch.



    Cool, except you don’t have Schmidt going to Buffalo, you have Coyle going there. Who is not waiving to leave Boston to go to Buffalo. It’s a poorly thought out concept.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
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    Cool, except you don’t have Schmidt going to Buffalo, you have Coyle going there. Who is not waiving to leave Boston to go to Buffalo. It’s a poorly thought out concept.


    my brain blanked. Don't know what happened there
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:14 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    my brain blanked. Don't know what happened there


    Lol.

    Schmidt wanted out of Vancouver, asked for a trade, he just did not want to go to Winnipeg. They basically told him it was there or nothing.

    Coyle does not want out nor does Boston want to move him.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: Userunknown
    Lol.

    Schmidt wanted out of Vancouver, asked for a trade, he just did not want to go to Winnipeg. They basically told him it was there or nothing.

    Coyle does not want out nor does Boston want to move him.


    Boston needs a proper second line centre. They traded for Coyle hoping he would develop into that, but he hasn't. 14 points in 26 games is not good enough, especially when you're linemates with Hall. And 5 mill to be a third line centre is too much.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    Boston needs a proper second line centre. They traded for Coyle hoping he would develop into that, but he hasn't. 14 points in 26 games is not good enough, especially when you're linemates with Hall. And 5 mill to be a third line centre is too much.



    They do, but Coyle was not brought in to be a C2, they traded for him because he was right hand shot that could play RW or C on the middle 6.

    And if they make a trade for a C2 they won’t be using Coyle to do it. They still need him.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:24 a.m.
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    They do, but Coyle was not brought in to be a C2, they traded for him because he was right hand shot that could play RW or C on the middle 6.

    And if they make a trade for a C2 they won’t be using Coyle to do it. They still need him.


    Boston needs to offload someone to stay within cap regulations then. And if you're saying, don't make the trade, Boston is a 1 line team right now, they need the bottom 9 to perform, and trading assets seems the most logical way for that to happen.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:28 a.m.
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    Boston needs to offload someone to stay within cap regulations then. And if you're saying, don't make the trade, Boston is a 1 line team right now, they need the bottom 9 to perform, and trading assets seems the most logical way for that to happen.


    They have lots of candidates to move, the one with the NMC that’s actually producing is not going to be one of them.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:34 a.m.
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    They have lots of candidates to move, the one with the NMC that’s actually producing is not going to be one of them.


    Like who?
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    Like who?


    Pretty much everyone else. The first line, Coyle, Hall, Mac, Carlo, Swayman stay. Anyone else can go.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.
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    Why in the hell would Buffalo give up the better, younger Center who is also significantly cheaper? You didn’t think that through at all.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 1:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: Tjm220
    Why in the hell would Buffalo give up the better, younger Center who is also significantly cheaper? You didn’t think that through at all.


    I assume Buffalo signs Giroux in the offseason to be 1C
    Coyle is becoming a veteran centre who would help develop Quinn and is definitely better than Thompson.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 1:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    MacEwan > Chiasson 100%
    Highmore injured: 100% of the time


    Both Highmore and Chiasson are more valuable to the Canucks than MacEwan. MacEwan hasn't done much for Philly. Highmore isn't going to even be considered for trade talks until he's healthy again, and I don't see the Nucks just giving him up for free without giving him a fair shot considering they traded Gaudette to get him
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: Knuckl3s
    Both Highmore and Chiasson are more valuable to the Canucks than MacEwan. MacEwan hasn't done much for Philly. Highmore isn't going to even be considered for trade talks until he's healthy again, and I don't see the Nucks just giving him up for free without giving him a fair shot considering they traded Gaudette to get him


    MacEwan got placed on waivers by a coach who isn't even there anymore.
    Just the fact that he's a young, fourth line grinder shows his worth.

    Are you really defending Chiasson's spot?
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:14 a.m.
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    Quoting: Scomen
    I assume Buffalo signs Giroux in the offseason to be 1C
    Coyle is becoming a veteran centre who would help develop Quinn and is definitely better than Thompson.


    Why would anyone not named Hall sign in Buffalo?

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    They do, but Coyle was not brought in to be a C2, they traded for him because he was right hand shot that could play RW or C on the middle 6.

    And if they make a trade for a C2 they won’t be using Coyle to do it. They still need him.


    Agree, both Coyle and Hayes are overpaid 3C's, and a 2nd will not be enough for Boston to take it. Besides, Coyle has intangibles Hayes doesn't.
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:26 a.m.
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    Not a chance in hell that Buffalo trades a guy they’ve spent years developing into a good young player for a Vet who DOESN’T FIT THEIR REBUILD TIMELINE
    And who very likely wouldn’t waive to come here

    And why would the Bruins wanna dump a guy- who they just signed to a long term deal- who’s playing well ??

    No part of that trade makes any sense
    Try again dude
    Bc Buffalo AND Boston just laugh at this proposal
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:28 a.m.
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    Why in the hell would Buffalo give up the better, younger Center who is also significantly cheaper? You didn’t think that through at all.


    Exactly this ^ ^
    Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:29 a.m.
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    I assume Buffalo signs Giroux in the offseason to be 1C
    Coyle is becoming a veteran centre who would help develop Quinn and is definitely better than Thompson.


    Assuming that any decent player would waive to come to the Sabres- or sign here- any time soon is just nuts
    Not when they have options to play for teams much closer to winning
    We just aren’t there yet
    Dec. 22, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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    Boston needs a proper second line centre. They traded for Coyle hoping he would develop into that, but he hasn't. 14 points in 26 games is not good enough, especially when you're linemates with Hall. And 5 mill to be a third line centre is too much.


    So why would would buffalo trade Thompson and a 2nd to bring in a guy who flopped at 2c
     
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