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TDLs Part 12

Created by: nintendofan721
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2021
Published: Dec. 21, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This is a challenging team to work with. They have the two best players in the league, who don’t have much of a team built around them. They’ll likely be in the playoffs, but as we saw last year they stink come that time. If they want to have any chance at making it past the first round, they’ll have to make some trades. They’ll have to tweak their defense and pick up a goaltender, and they especially need to change up their bottom six, who are the ones giving up all the goals. If Ken Holland makes these moves, they might have a bit of a run, but by next year they’ll have very little cap space to work with which will make it hard for the Oilers’ future. I hope for McDavid and Draisaitl that their team can have some success later on outside of the regular season.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André ($3,500,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Turris, Kyle
  3. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Made this trade for my Chicago TDL. If Edmonton even wants to be close to making it past the first round they’ll need a goalie with playoff experience, and MAF has that. The cap dumps in return will cost the Oilers a high pick.
2.
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (CGY)
BOS
  1. Barrie, Tyson
Additional Details:
I’ve seen rumours that Boston wants a right offensive defenseman, and Barrie may be a good fit for them. DeBrusk can be given in return since he’s on the outs from Boston and Oilers need a better bottom six. It’ll be a return home for him too!
3.
EDM
  1. Leddy, Nick ($2,750,000 retained)
DET
  1. Ryan, Derek
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Oilers are looking for a left defenseman, and Leddy may be a solid option. It’ll be for a similar return to what the Isles got for him.
4.
EDM
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,700,000 retained)
PHI
  1. Koekkoek, Slater
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
A RHD to replace Barrie for this year. He’ll be worth a bit less than what the Sabres got for him though since he’s a pending UFA.
5.
ARI
  1. 2023 6th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
An extra bottom six forward.
6.
SEA
  1. 2022 7th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Another bottom six forward.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$74,537,801$669,339$850,000$6,962,199
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$3,675,000$3,675,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$0$0
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$0$0
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1

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Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:46 p.m.
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bruins dont need barrie.
Dec. 21, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.
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If the Wings are selling off Leddy half-retained, the return would have to be better than a 3rd and a cap dump. Otherwise, they might as well keep him.
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Dec. 21, 2021 at 3:14 p.m.
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I'm not convinced any of these guys make the Oilers better.

More likely this group is worse than what they've got now.
Dec. 21, 2021 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: TraderJoes
I'm not convinced any of these guys make the Oilers better.

More likely this group is worse than what they've got now.


Other than the Goaltending deal, I 100% agree, Fleury is significantly better than either Koskinen or Smith so this would be legit, however, I am not sold he'd be willing to waive his NMC AND don't see Edmonton giving up a 1st for him, unless they filled needs elsewhere with prospects or future draft picks and this was the remaining piece...
Also, don't get why people are quick to oust Barrie, yes Bouchard is pretty much ready to takeover his spot, but, people severely devalue a great room guy can do for the team.. Usually they are referred to as "Glue Guys" and are role players in the bottom pairing D or bottom 6 forwards, but Barrie can bring sooo much more, and he's on a discounted deal.. Guarantee had he gone to market rather than stay in Edmonton he would've got more term and likely more $$$(case and point Derek Forbort got 3x$3m and he's nowhere near the player, or importance to the teams he's ever played on that Barrie has..)..
Dec. 21, 2021 at 4:12 p.m.
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Absolute minimum Leddy 50% will cost a 2nd, Wings will obviously try to get more than that but if they can't even get a 2nd they'll just try to resign him
Dec. 21, 2021 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: KDow88
Other than the Goaltending deal, I 100% agree, Fleury is significantly better than either Koskinen or Smith so this would be legit, however, I am not sold he'd be willing to waive his NMC AND don't see Edmonton giving up a 1st for him, unless they filled needs elsewhere with prospects or future draft picks and this was the remaining piece...
Also, don't get why people are quick to oust Barrie, yes Bouchard is pretty much ready to takeover his spot, but, people severely devalue a great room guy can do for the team.. Usually they are referred to as "Glue Guys" and are role players in the bottom pairing D or bottom 6 forwards, but Barrie can bring sooo much more, and he's on a discounted deal.. Guarantee had he gone to market rather than stay in Edmonton he would've got more term and likely more $$$(case and point Derek Forbort got 3x$3m and he's nowhere near the player, or importance to the teams he's ever played on that Barrie has..)..

I agree with most of this, but why do you think MAF is a "significant upgrade" over Smith? Combining last year and this, Smith has posted a better save percentage (.923 vs .922) while mostly playing in a MUCH tougher division. You'll recall last year that Vegas played in a division with only 1 other good offensive team (Colorado) while Smith faced good offensive players basically every night.

Also, Fleury's performance this year has been, shall we say, uneven. I'm not seeing a "significant upgrade".
Dec. 21, 2021 at 5:31 p.m.
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Red Wings decline. Yzerman can do much better than that for Leddy.
Dec. 21, 2021 at 5:50 p.m.
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i seriously doubt they trade for Sheahan.
Dec. 21, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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Bruins. Will. Never. Take. Barrie.
Dec. 22, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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Where did u hear this rumor? Especially don't want barrie.
Dec. 22, 2021 at 1:19 p.m.
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Quoting: TraderJoes
I agree with most of this, but why do you think MAF is a "significant upgrade" over Smith? Combining last year and this, Smith has posted a better save percentage (.923 vs .922) while mostly playing in a MUCH tougher division. You'll recall last year that Vegas played in a division with only 1 other good offensive team (Colorado) while Smith faced good offensive players basically every night.

Also, Fleury's performance this year has been, shall we say, uneven. I'm not seeing a "significant upgrade".


I base it off their career totals, along with durability... Yes, Smith had a good season last year, and Fleury STARTED off blah this year, but overall, I have faith and trust the 37 year old 3x Stanley Cup champion, who has 500 career regular season wins, over the oft injured Mike Smith... The winning pedigree and durability in net would help answer a few question marks...
Dec. 22, 2021 at 1:21 p.m.
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I base it off their career totals, along with durability... Yes, Smith had a good season last year, and Fleury STARTED off blah this year, but overall, I have faith and trust the 37 year old 3x Stanley Cup champion, who has 500 career regular season wins, over the oft injured Mike Smith... The winning pedigree and durability in net would help answer a few question marks...


I'm still not seeing a "significant upgrade". When both guys are healthy, they produce similar results... the fact that Fleury spent most of his career on a fantastic team shouldn't alter his value today.
Dec. 22, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.
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I'm still not seeing a "significant upgrade". When both guys are healthy, they produce similar results... the fact that Fleury spent most of his career on a fantastic team shouldn't alter his value today.


The significant upgrade would come in the durability portion, I'd much rather the guy who plays 55 games with the .920 save% over the guy who plays 35 games with a .923 save percentage. Smith is sooo injury prone, that it doesn't help his cause that you basically hold your breathe anytime he stretches out too far to make save, whereas Fleury has been doing that his entire career(I seriously hope I don't jinx him-knock on wood) and it's business as usual. Ultimately, I as an Oiler fan would love to see Fleury come in with Smith as a backup 1B option to help get the team over the hump, but that's just a pipe dream, and we are holding out hope that Skinner plays well enough to be a Binnington 2.0 with Smith leading the way and getting rid of Koskinen's deal in any capacity to help bring in a top 6 winger and/or 3rd pairing d man...
Dec. 22, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.
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The significant upgrade would come in the durability portion, I'd much rather the guy who plays 55 games with the .920 save% over the guy who plays 35 games with a .923 save percentage. Smith is sooo injury prone, that it doesn't help his cause that you basically hold your breathe anytime he stretches out too far to make save, whereas Fleury has been doing that his entire career(I seriously hope I don't jinx him-knock on wood) and it's business as usual. Ultimately, I as an Oiler fan would love to see Fleury come in with Smith as a backup 1B option to help get the team over the hump, but that's just a pipe dream, and we are holding out hope that Skinner plays well enough to be a Binnington 2.0 with Smith leading the way and getting rid of Koskinen's deal in any capacity to help bring in a top 6 winger and/or 3rd pairing d man...


You said Fleury was "significantly better than... Smith". Durability isn't going to cover that statement.
Dec. 22, 2021 at 2:07 p.m.
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You said Fleury was "significantly better than... Smith". Durability isn't going to cover that statement.


The 37 year old who has played 259 more games than the 40 year old, with a slightly higher save % for his career, and better gaa, is reason enough alone to say he is significantly better... The fact the dude has played wayyyyy more games and still has better career numbers should be plenty of reason....
Dec. 22, 2021 at 2:32 p.m.
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The 37 year old who has played 259 more games than the 40 year old, with a slightly higher save % for his career, and better gaa, is reason enough alone to say he is significantly better... The fact the dude has played wayyyyy more games and still has better career numbers should be plenty of reason....

I can't believe that you'd look at career numbers to determine the current value of two guys who have been in the league for 2 decades. That's incredible.
Dec. 22, 2021 at 3:04 p.m.
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I can't believe that you'd look at career numbers to determine the current value of two guys who have been in the league for 2 decades. That's incredible.


Ok, let's take the average of the last 5 seasons then... MAF 917 Save% and averages 42.4 games played over the last 5 years, Smith .912 save% and 34.2 gps, wouldn't worry about GAA as I feel that can be more of a team stat than anything... If you want to break it down to the last 3 year as well it still doesn't work in Smith's favor, you're grasping at straws thinking that the .923 save% from last year with 32 gp for Smith wasn't the anomaly compared to the consistency Fleury has had his entire career..... I'm not saying Smith is a bad goalie, but in comparison to somebody like Marc Andre, ones a Hall of Famer, and has proven to be a bonafide number 1, and the other has been somewhat of a career journeyman who has been/is often injured...
Dec. 22, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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Where did u hear this rumor? Especially don't want barrie.


I saw a bunch of people on this website saying that was a rumor, but maybe they weren’t looking at a reliable source. Sounds like a lot of bruins fans on this post are saying they don’t want him
Dec. 22, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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Ok, let's take the average of the last 5 seasons then... MAF 917 Save% and averages 42.4 games played over the last 5 years, Smith .912 save% and 34.2 gps, wouldn't worry about GAA as I feel that can be more of a team stat than anything... If you want to break it down to the last 3 year as well it still doesn't work in Smith's favor, you're grasping at straws thinking that the .923 save% from last year with 32 gp for Smith wasn't the anomaly compared to the consistency Fleury has had his entire career..... I'm not saying Smith is a bad goalie, but in comparison to somebody like Marc Andre, ones a Hall of Famer, and has proven to be a bonafide number 1, and the other has been somewhat of a career journeyman who has been/is often injured...


I noticed that you didn't post the last 3 years stats so I went and looked them up:

Fleury: .914
Smith: .912

Still not seeing "significantly better".
Dec. 22, 2021 at 4:37 p.m.
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I noticed that you didn't post the last 3 years stats so I went and looked them up:

Fleury: .914
Smith: .912

Still not seeing "significantly better".


Ok, and games played average???? Cause it's easy to inflate Smith's stats when he's playing half the games.. How you're not understanding that a durable, proven winner, with better stats and far better track record is significantly better is baffling to me. It's like you're offended that Mike Smith is untrustworthy, unless you are Mike Smith, to which dude, don't trust you cause of how injury prone you are, not saying you're a bad goalie, or anything to that nature, cause when you are healthy you're solid, but you don't stay healthy, ergo Marc Andre Fleury is a significant upgrade...
Dec. 22, 2021 at 5:03 p.m.
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I saw a bunch of people on this website saying that was a rumor, but maybe they weren’t looking at a reliable source. Sounds like a lot of bruins fans on this post are saying they don’t want him


Bruins are pretty good on the right side. They need LHD, which isn't even their biggest need. We need help at forward more.
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