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2021-2022 NHL Discussion Thread #9 - Happy Holidays

Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Ritchie on waivers lol


I saw that coming since the day he signed that contract.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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Ritchie on waivers lol


Did he waive back?
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/541362

My Olympics Predictions
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
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And poor Riley Nash he could have won the Cup in Tampa but got claimed by Arizona


Went from the worst team to the best
W for Riley Nash
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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Did he waive back?


Devils are going to claim him
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.
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I saw that coming since the day he signed that contract.


The Leafs have given him every opportunity to establish himself and he hasn't come close to seizing it. It clearly hasn't worked out, but I still don't have a big problem with signing Ritchie given what was known at the time. It's easy to see an alternate path where Bunting doesn't turn into such a home run and Ritchie, shooting closer to his career average, is a decent depth piece. But unfortunately that didn’t happen.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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The Leafs have given him every opportunity to establish himself and he hasn't come close to seizing it. It clearly hasn't worked out, but I still don't have a big problem with signing Ritchie given what was known at the time. It's easy to see an alternate path where Bunting doesn't turn into such a home run and Ritchie, shooting closer to his career average, is a decent depth piece. But unfortunately that didn’t happen.


Admittedly I thought it was a decent signing at the time. Fortunately (from my perspective that is), hasn't turned out that way, although Bunting's kind of made up for it by filling in for the role they assumed Ritchie would have.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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Admittedly I thought it was a decent signing at the time. Fortunately (from my perspective that is), hasn't turned out that way, although Bunting's kind of made up for it by filling in for the role they assumed Ritchie would have.


Boston not qualifying him was already a red flag at the time, given the Bruins aren't swimming in decent forward depth.
Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:48 p.m.
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Some of them aren't surprising; Hoffman, Laine, Connor, Ekblad, but I'm surprised by Brendan Smith and Derick Brassard, though they significantly overachieved given their expected chances.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
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Some of them aren't surprising; Hoffman, Laine, Connor, Ekblad, but I'm surprised by Brendan Smith and Derick Brassard, though they significantly overachieved given their expected chances.


No surprise to see Stammer and Connor with the most goals in that regard
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
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Some of them aren't surprising; Hoffman, Laine, Connor, Ekblad, but I'm surprised by Brendan Smith and Derick Brassard, though they significantly overachieved given their expected chances.


Forgot Tavares hasnt done one this year lul was wondering where he was
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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Important to note that the only reason Ovi isn't on that list is because he's 100% expected to score with almost every slap shot he takes
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:58 p.m.
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Genuine question:

Which team could afford Klingberg fo the years to come and could trade for him at the deadline this year?
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Important to note that the only reason Ovi isn't on that list is because he's 100% expected to score with almost every slap shot he takes


Not really.

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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.
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Ritchie on waivers lol


Well Coyotes gonna have some fun

As he benefits them in 2 ways by 1. getting them a useable player and 2. Getting them to the cap floor

If not either buyout or packaged off for someone at the deadline. Heck maybe someone waits for him to clear then he is traded as that does tend to happen. Anyways if we got to Dump him wont cost us much as we have seen with more expensive examples making 4.5-5.5mill cost a 2nd but with that 2.5mill deal probs a 4th.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Genuine question:

Which team could afford Klingberg next year and which team could trade for him at the deadline this year?


The Hurricanes could decide to let go DeAngelo this season and trade for Klingberg with extension.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
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The Hurricanes could decide to let go DeAngelo this season and trade for Klingberg with extension.


I was thinking Seattle as they could look to make a splash

So if they move Gio and during 2022 offseason sign Klingberg

Oleksiak-Klingberg
Dunn-Larsson
Soucy-Lauzon
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:02 p.m.
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Well Coyotes gonna have some fun

As he benefits them in 2 ways by 1. getting them a useable player and 2. Getting them to the cap floor

If not either buyout or packaged off for someone at the deadline.


They're 110% not claiming him. I can't recall a single time a multi-year contract was claimed off waivers. If something they make 3rd-party retention at the deadline, but claiming a below replacement level forward at 2.5M with an extra year is illogical.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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I was thinking Seattle as they could look to make a splash


But would they be willing to spend the assets? Because if Dallas are going to lose him, they’ll trade him at the deadline.

Florida made me some sense, the only problem was that I can’t see them affording him.
Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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They're 110% not claiming him. I can't recall a single time a multi-year contract was claimed off waivers. If something they make 3rd-party retention at the deadline, but claiming a below replacement level forward at 2.5M with an extra year is illogical.


Heres the thing

Who wants to go to Arizona rn... The answer nobody

Coyotes are gonna have a hard time attracting free agents so why not claim a guy who they can use and has a contract into next season

Coyotes should not care how good this player is as they plan to be bad for a long time

Ritchie making 2.5mill not only fills in a contract spot but helps them reach the cap floor next year

And those 2 outweigh the logic of well you know this contract sucks

Bad teams dont care, there mission tank for the #1OA pick
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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But would they be willing to spend the assets? Because if Dallas are going to lose him, they’ll trade him at the deadline.

Florida made me some sense, the only problem was that I can’t see them affording him.


Oh thats if nobody trades for him or he moves on to FA.

Dont see Seattle spending rn
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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Heres the thing

Who wants to go to Arizona rn... The answer nobody

Coyotes are gonna have a hard time attracting free agents so why not claim a guy who they can use and has a contract into next season

Coyotes should not care how good this player is as they plan to be bad for a long time

Ritchie making 2.5mill not only fills in a contract spot but helps them reach the cap floor next year


There are other ways to reach the cap floor without helping top teams have even more deadline cap space. They're not shy to overpay a FA if need be, see Dmitrij Jaskin. I'll quote you in 24 hours when he clears.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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There are other ways to reach the cap floor without helping top teams have even more deadline cap space. They're not shy to overpay a FA if need be, see Dmitrij Jaskin. I'll quote you in 24 hours when he clears.


Teams may just wait for him to clear then make a move as teams are more willing to trade for guys once guys like this clear. One way or another he may end up in Arizona or another team

As I said he probs moves at the deadline or later on teams rn are in no rush to make trades unless they are riddled with injuries or think theres a fit. But later down the road someone may make a trade for him as who knows maybe a conditioning stint in the AHL is all he needs.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:11 p.m.
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Genuine question:

Which team could afford Klingberg fo the years to come and could trade for him at the deadline this year?


Well, the Lightning would love Klingberg, but probably can't afford him even for this year, let alone re-sign him. Flames, Bruins and Oilers would probably be interested. Could actually see the Oilers making a push for both him and Khudobin in a package deal.
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Jan. 6, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.
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Devils are going to claim him


I doubt it. They already have Geertsen who sucks at hockey. Ritchie is just Geertsen but more expensive

Oilers are gonna claim him
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