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Created by: DirtyDangle
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 23, 2021
Published: Dec. 24, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Team Explanation
avs bet petry can find his game again playing a more appropriate role.

avs have $7m to figure out a starting goalie.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas1$1,150,000
Bowers, Shane1$875,000
Maltsev, Mikhail1$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Nichushkin, Valeri5$4,500,000
Sikura, Dylan1$875,000
Francouz, Pavel1$2,000,000
Pavelski, Joe1$5,000,000
MacDonald, Jacob1$850,000
Trades
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COL
  1. Petry, Jeff ($3,125,000 retained)
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$75,140,833$25,000$4,275,000$7,359,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$6,300,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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Nichushkin, Valeri
$4,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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Newhook, Alex
$908,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
Pavelski, Joe
$5,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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O'Connor, Logan
$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Jost, Tyson
$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Compher, J.T.
$3,500,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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Maltsev, Mikhail
$875,000
LW
RFA - 1
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Bowers, Shane
$875,000
C
RFA
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Sikura, Dylan
$875,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Kaut, Martin
$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Toews, Devon
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Makar, Cale
$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Francouz, Pavel
$2,000,000
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UFA - 2
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Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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Johnson, Erik
$6,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Byram, Bowen
$894,167
LD
RFA - 1
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Petry, Jeff
$3,125,000
RD
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UFA - 3
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MacDonald, Jacob
$850,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2

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Dec. 24, 2021 at 7:26 a.m.
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Can't see the Habs retaining almost $10,000,000 on Petry for a 2nd late 2nd at that.
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 7:44 a.m.
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Petry will find is game the day Dom Ducharme will be fire, which means next year
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 8:18 a.m.
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Good R.D are hard to come by. you don't get him for nothing.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 8:30 a.m.
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I can't see Colorado committing dollars to another defenseman with term. There are too many other balls in the air with both the entire second line and goalie tandem being ufas. If they do add a veteran instead of going with Barron, I think it would have to be a guy like Giordano on a one year deal or a pending ufa at the tdl.

I like the Pavelski signing. I think it's a long shot but like the fit.
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 9:14 a.m.
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 9:36 a.m.
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Quoting: Black61
If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.


I guess it's in the eye of the beholder, because the constant for me is Habs fans sending bad contracts and/or mediocre players to Colorado in exchange for premium assets. Lol.
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 10:21 a.m.
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Petry will find is game the day Dom Ducharme will be fire, which means next year


he'll still 2 years left on his contract next year.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Black61
If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.


i think a 2nd for what he brings this season is more than fair. there isn't another player in the league who's play fell this far this season. even with the retention if his play doesn't improve the avs have an overpaid 3rd pair defenseman and gave up a 2nd. the price is fair considering the risk.

habs fans are just stuck in fantasy land when it comes to trade values
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Dec. 24, 2021 at 10:59 a.m.
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he'll still 2 years left on his contract next year.


Ducharme is getting fired at the end of the season
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:00 a.m.
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Ducharme is getting fired at the end of the season


imo, if the habs opt for a rebuild i think they'll keep him in place. if they go for a retool they'll bite the bullet and fire him.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
i think a 2nd for what he brings this season is more than fair. there isn't another player in the league who's play fell this far this season. even with the retention if his play doesn't improve the avs have an overpaid 3rd pair defenseman and gave up a 2nd. the price is fair considering the risk.

habs fans are just stuck in fantasy land when it comes to trade values


All of his analytics numbers are still excellent a quarter season of bad puck luck doesnt erase a career of excellent production. He is still in the top 30 among dmen in points since the start of last year.

At that retention he is making low end #4-high #5 money he is still significantly better than that.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:20 a.m.
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All of his analytics numbers are still excellent a quarter season of bad puck luck doesnt erase a career of excellent production. He is still in the top 30 among dmen in points since the start of last year.

At that retention he is making low end #4-high #5 money he is still significantly better than that.


it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:35 a.m.
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it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.


Ya because teams are goibg to assume that a guy who has more points than Karlsson hamilton jones etc the previously 4 seasons magically forget everything overnight.

At less than 3.25 million team will lineup to take that gamble and pay much more. 3 million for a RD on the ufa market doesnt get you a top 4 dman
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:40 a.m.
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Ya because teams are goibg to assume that a guy who has more points than Karlsson hamilton jones etc the previously 4 seasons magically forget everything overnight.

At less than 3.25 million team will lineup to take that gamble and pay much more. 3 million for a RD on the ufa market doesnt get you a top 4 dman


that's how aging works. the decline is usually fast.

petry isn't playing at a top 4 level right now. in free agency $3.25m over 3 years for a 35+ player gets you a good player. that's almost what suter signed for and suter is way better than petry.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:48 a.m.
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no Justin Barron?
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
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that's how aging works. the decline is usually fast.

petry isn't playing at a top 4 level right now. in free agency $3.25m over 3 years for a 35+ player gets you a good player. that's almost what suter signed for and suter is way better than petry.


You cant say "thats how aging works" then throw out a example who is just starting a deal at the same age as when petrys ends.

Suter is also a left shot and its the height of ignorance to assume LD and RD have similar values. He is also the perfect example of bounceback as he wasnt good last year but at 37 bounced back to his younger self.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 11:54 a.m.
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no Justin Barron?


if he makes the team sure. he looked like he could use a bit more seasoning. i'd rather let him over develop than rush him.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 12:01 p.m.
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You cant say "thats how aging works" then throw out a example who is just starting a deal at the same age as when petrys ends.

Suter is also a left shot and its the height of ignorance to assume LD and RD have similar values. He is also the perfect example of bounceback as he wasnt good last year but at 37 bounced back to his younger self.


suter is a freak of nature an exception to the rule. petry is not. simple as that.

suter had an off year and was bought out. if thats the way the habs want to go so be it. saves the avs a 2nd rounder.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.

If there is one constant on this site is the insane overvaluing of MTL players by MTL fans. Like literally have seen multiple threads with crap like Newhook and Byram and Kuemper for Price and parts. The number of times Bad Girard trades are posted are only surpassed by bad over pays for Drouin. There are some good MTL fans here but there are some freaking loons, that if the players were as good as their traded value MTL would be like the 3 time defending cup champion.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 1:18 p.m.
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it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.


Look at Petry numbers last year … he didn’t scored a SINGLE goal when Ducharme replaced C. Julien. Is season went downhill from there. Ducharme is THE problem
Dec. 24, 2021 at 2:25 p.m.
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Look at Petry numbers last year … he didn’t scored a SINGLE goal when Ducharme replaced C. Julien. Is season went downhill from there. Ducharme is THE problem


he's also older now and doesn't have weber to play the tough minutes. it could be ducharme but it could also be age related decline. it's impossible to say one way or the other. given the habs other defensemen are finding ways to contribute offensively im leaning towards it's just a decline for petry.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 4:15 p.m.
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he's also older now and doesn't have weber to play the tough minutes. it could be ducharme but it could also be age related decline. it's impossible to say one way or the other. given the habs other defensemen are finding ways to contribute offensively im leaning towards it's just a decline for petry.


What about Petry saying publicly Ducharme system has no structure lol but yeah could be one or the other. But look where the Habs are right now with Allen playing God like. Ducharme is the worse coach in NHL history & we are saying this since last year even if we made it too the SCF. Imagine never using Caufield in the Ovechkin spot. Like wtf use him for is one timer but no, Burrows & Ducharme are ****.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
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What about Petry saying publicly Ducharme system has no structure lol but yeah could be one or the other. But look where the Habs are right now with Allen playing God like. Ducharme is the worse coach in NHL history & we are saying this since last year even if we made it too the SCF. Imagine never using Caufield in the Ovechkin spot. Like wtf use him for is one timer but no, Burrows & Ducharme are ****.


like i said the other habs defesemen are performing. it's just petry. and caufield doesn't have the strength to one time like ovi. he should be down in the ahl.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.
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like i said the other habs defesemen are performing. it's just petry. and caufield doesn't have the strength to one time like ovi. he should be down in the ahl.


Doesn’t have the strength ? Is shot is Elite and you don’t need to be strong on the PP you are not getting hit. Coaching staff are dumb that’s it.
Dec. 24, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
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Doesn’t have the strength ? Is shot is Elite and you don’t need to be strong on the PP you are not getting hit. Coaching staff are dumb that’s it.


from 20 ft out is shot is elite.
 
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