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Bringing back Phil

Created by: Willian_Cardoso
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 20, 2021
Published: Dec. 26, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Kessel, Phil ($3,400,000 retained)
ARI
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Aston-Reese, Zach
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2023 3rd pick: If Pens reaches Conference Finals and Kessel plays more than 50% of the playoffs games, then Arizona will get their 2023 2nd instead of.
2.
PIT
  1. Miller, Colin
BUF
  1. Lee, Cameron
  2. Zohorna, Radim
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,166,667
Buried
  • Juuso Riikola: $25,000 ($1,150,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,703,206$0$0$796,794
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Rodrigues, Evan
$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Kessel, Phil
$3,400,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Heinen, Danton
$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Carter, Jeff
$2,636,364
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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McGinn, Brock
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Blueger, Teddy
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 5
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Marino, John
$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 6
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DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 4
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Miller, Colin
$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Ruhwedel, Chad
$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Boyle, Brian
$750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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Dec. 26, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
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Buffalo runs away with that
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Dec. 27, 2021 at 3:33 a.m.
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Coyotes decline pretty easily. Not a whole lot to love about that return to take on Zucker in the process, they'd probably rather just get a 2nd straight up for him.
Dec. 27, 2021 at 8:19 a.m.
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Quoting: krakowitz
Coyotes decline pretty easily. Not a whole lot to love about that return to take on Zucker in the process, they'd probably rather just get a 2nd straight up for him.


I'm not sure if Coyotes will get more for Kessel. Zucker AND Aston Reese plus a conditional 3rd is a good offer for him as a rental. He's far from his prime when he played for us in our back to back cups.
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Dec. 27, 2021 at 8:21 a.m.
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Buffalo runs away with that


It's possible that Buffalo gets a bit more than that. But just a bit. Colin Miller doesn't worth a 1st or great prospects.
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Dec. 27, 2021 at 8:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
It's possible that Buffalo gets a bit more than that. But just a bit. Colin Miller doesn't worth a 1st or great prospects.
Dec. 27, 2021 at 10:22 a.m.
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Arizona says deal here. They won't get anything better for Phil. That's a dream for them
Dec. 27, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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Quoting: krakowitz
Coyotes decline pretty easily. Not a whole lot to love about that return to take on Zucker in the process, they'd probably rather just get a 2nd straight up for him.


Arizona takes this deal all day long. They get two players who have potential at scoring goals. Zucker needs a change of scenery and Aston-Reese is one of the best 200 ft players in the game
Dec. 27, 2021 at 2:50 p.m.
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I'm not sure if Coyotes will get more for Kessel. Zucker AND Aston Reese plus a conditional 3rd is a good offer for him as a rental. He's far from his prime when he played for us in our back to back cups.


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Arizona takes this deal all day long. They get two players who have potential at scoring goals. Zucker needs a change of scenery and Aston-Reese is one of the best 200 ft players in the game


Zucker is a cap dump. Period. Getting Arizona to take on that deal costs more than ZAR and a third, and adding a retained Kessel ups the cost. Don't try and spin Zucker into being something positive, or else you wouldn't want to trade him.
Dec. 27, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
It's possible that Buffalo gets a bit more than that. But just a bit. Colin Miller doesn't worth a 1st or great prospects.

Miller's worth a mid-round 2nd. What would Buffalo have to add to Miller to get a first? Or what additional cap?
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Dec. 27, 2021 at 4:38 p.m.
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Miller's worth a mid-round 2nd. What would Buffalo have to add to Miller to get a first? Or what additional cap?
While at the TDL Miller will be traded for about a mid second, IMO a 2023 second would be the minimum, maybe more to move into the first round.
It is unlikely any team would give up a first for him, take the 2nd or this trade and walk away pleased with the return.
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Dec. 28, 2021 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: krakowitz
Zucker is a cap dump. Period. Getting Arizona to take on that deal costs more than ZAR and a third, and adding a retained Kessel ups the cost. Don't try and spin Zucker into being something positive, or else you wouldn't want to trade him.


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Dec. 29, 2021 at 10:13 a.m.
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Quoting: krakowitz
Zucker is a cap dump. Period. Getting Arizona to take on that deal costs more than ZAR and a third, and adding a retained Kessel ups the cost. Don't try and spin Zucker into being something positive, or else you wouldn't want to trade him.


A dump in a good team. Not in this Arizona garbage one. He'd be a top-6 winger in this team. No-brainer.

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Zucker is a cap dump. Period. Getting Arizona to take on that deal costs more than ZAR and a third, and adding a retained Kessel ups the cost. Don't try and spin Zucker into being something positive, or else you wouldn't want to trade him.
Dec. 29, 2021 at 3:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
A dump in a good team. Not in this Arizona garbage one. He'd be a top-6 winger in this team. No-brainer.


There's no point in Arizona acquiring him to be anything less than a cap dump. Arizona will get better offers for Kessel without taking a cap dump.
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Dec. 29, 2021 at 6:45 p.m.
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There's no point in Arizona acquiring him to be anything less than a cap dump. Arizona will get better offers for Kessel without taking a cap dump.


I bet that he will get to Arizona much less than most of you guys think. Kessel has just 4 goals. His season is far from good and he's playing for one of the worst teams that I l've ever seen since I started to watch the NHL. You'see... I just wanted him cause MAYBE he could help us playing again alongside Geno and Rust. But I don't think he worths more than I offer.
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I bet that he will get for Arizona much less than most of you guys think. Kessel has just 4 goals. His season is far from good and he's playing for one of the worst teams that I l've ever seen since I started to watch the NHL. You'see... I just wanted him cause MAYBE he could help us playing again alongside Geno and Rust. But I don't think he worths more than I offer.
 
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