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Team: 2017-18 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 25, 2017
Published: Mar. 26, 2017
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I just made this up to explore McDavids trade value around the league. Feel free to submit offers below.
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Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:28 p.m.
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no way... hes worth more
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Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:29 p.m.
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Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:36 p.m.
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If it's money they are few teams that can pay McDavid what he wants. I could be wrong, but after his three year ELC because he age, he is not eligible for an offer sheet and has limited negotiation rights (like Trouba) to demand a big contract. So it's either Edmonton or Russia. Only after five years would McDavid be eligible for arbitration or an offer sheet and of course a trade could occur any time
Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:51 p.m.
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If it's money they are few teams that can pay McDavid what he wants. I could be wrong, but after his three year ELC because he age, he is not eligible for an offer sheet and has limited negotiation rights (like Trouba) to demand a big contract. So it's either Edmonton or Russia. Only after five years would McDavid be eligible for arbitration or an offer sheet and of course a trade could occur any time


again youre wrong. Offersheet eligibility coming off an ELC is based on numbers of games played. Gaudreau was ineligible to receive an offer sheet last summer since he was signing out of the NCAA when he did, he only received a 2 year ELC and did not meet the minimum amount of games required for Offersheets

Trouba was eligible to an offersheet, he did not have arbitration rights. Come on man, do some homework. As long as McDavid doesnt miss next season it isnt Edmonton or Russia, he will be fair game to offersheets however in any case Edmonton matches so its a moot point
Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:51 p.m.
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If it's money they are few teams that can pay McDavid what he wants. I could be wrong, but after his three year ELC because he age, he is not eligible for an offer sheet and has limited negotiation rights (like Trouba) to demand a big contract. So it's either Edmonton or Russia. Only after five years would McDavid be eligible for arbitration or an offer sheet and of course a trade could occur any time


I'm just trying to establish his current trade value, don't overthink it. Maybe hes engaged to Janet Gretzky?
Mar. 26, 2017 at 7:56 p.m.
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If it's money they are few teams that can pay McDavid what he wants. I could be wrong, but after his three year ELC because he age, he is not eligible for an offer sheet and has limited negotiation rights (like Trouba) to demand a big contract. So it's either Edmonton or Russia. Only after five years would McDavid be eligible for arbitration or an offer sheet and of course a trade could occur any time


I'm just trying to establish his current trade value, don't overthink it. Maybe hes engaged to Janet Gretzky?


Its more than that TBH, think about it in this way, he is worth contract wise that would give 4 1st round pick compensation. So if Edmonton is going to trade him for whatever reason they would be looking for 4 1st round pieces back at the very minimum. Offersheets wont scare them bc He is going to get top dollar in his next contract and they will match whatever offer sheet that is proposed.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 8:04 p.m.
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In my opinion, any McDavid to toronto trade would involve matthews.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 8:47 p.m.
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Leddy, Soderstrom and Tavares for McDavid?
Mar. 26, 2017 at 8:48 p.m.
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Edmonton Oilers
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Hyman

Toronto Maple Leafs
McDavid
Pitlick
Mar. 26, 2017 at 8:57 p.m.
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Edmonton Oilers
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Hyman

Toronto Maple Leafs
McDavid
Pitlick


That's pretty much Toronto's whole team! McDavid is good, but not that good. Matthews is probably 80% the player McDavid is, but bigger, more physical and perhaps has a more complete game. Yzerman vs Gretzky, IMO.

Even the trade I proposed might be overpayment by Toronto. Matthews + Zaitsev is probably a good guess if Matthews is involved.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 8:58 p.m.
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Edmonton Oilers
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Hyman

Toronto Maple Leafs
McDavid
Pitlick


That's pretty much Toronto's whole team! McDavid is good, but not that good. Matthews is probably 80% the player McDavid is, but bigger, more physical and perhaps has a more complete game. Yzerman vs Gretzky, IMO.

Even the trade I proposed might be overpayment by Toronto. Matthews + Zaitsev is probably a good guess if Matthews is involved.


In my opinion, he's the best playing in the league right now.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:00 p.m.
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Edmonton Oilers
Matthews
Marner
Nylander
Hyman

Toronto Maple Leafs
McDavid
Pitlick


That's pretty much Toronto's whole team! McDavid is good, but not that good. Matthews is probably 80% the player McDavid is, but bigger, more physical and perhaps has a more complete game. Yzerman vs Gretzky, IMO.

Even the trade I proposed might be overpayment by Toronto. Matthews + Zaitsev is probably a good guess if Matthews is involved.


McDavid isnt that good? Hes is in the Top 3 of Players right now and will be the best player in this league for the next decade. Come on man dont discredit McDavids ability
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Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:01 p.m.
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Leddy, Soderstrom and Tavares for McDavid?


No. Tavares has just one year until UFA.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:04 p.m.
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That's pretty much Toronto's whole team! McDavid is good, but not that good. Matthews is probably 80% the player McDavid is, but bigger, more physical and perhaps has a more complete game. Yzerman vs Gretzky, IMO.

Even the trade I proposed might be overpayment by Toronto. Matthews + Zaitsev is probably a good guess if Matthews is involved.


McDavid isnt that good? Hes is in the Top 3 of Players right now and will be the best player in this league for the next decade. Come on man dont discredit McDavids ability


I'm not discrediting him at all. I just don't think any single player - even the best one - is worth Matthews + Marner + Nylander + Hyman.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:08 p.m.
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McDavid isnt that good? Hes is in the Top 3 of Players right now and will be the best player in this league for the next decade. Come on man dont discredit McDavids ability


I'm not discrediting him at all. I just don't think any single player - even the best one - is worth Matthews + Marner + Nylander + Hyman.


I would agree however this is the best player probably behind only Crosby and even that is debatable. Its going to take a Kings Randsom to pry the face of the NHL away from the Oilers at 20 years old and will dominating this league for the next 12-14 years
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:30 p.m.
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I'm not discrediting him at all. I just don't think any single player - even the best one - is worth Matthews + Marner + Nylander + Hyman.


Its going to take a Kings Randsom to pry the face of the NHL away from the Oilers at 20 years old and will dominating this league for the next 12-14 years


Absolutely. But the trade I am disputing involves three other players who will also be dominant for the next 12-14 years - two of whom are younger than McDavid. The four players suggested represent 81 goals and over 200 points so far this season, and all are rookies who will only get better.

McDavid is the arguably the most valuable single trade asset in the NHL, but isn't worth the 4 players mentioned above IMO.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:53 p.m.
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If it's money they are few teams that can pay McDavid what he wants. I could be wrong, but after his three year ELC because he age, he is not eligible for an offer sheet and has limited negotiation rights (like Trouba) to demand a big contract. So it's either Edmonton or Russia. Only after five years would McDavid be eligible for arbitration or an offer sheet and of course a trade could occur any time


again youre wrong. Offersheet eligibility coming off an ELC is based on numbers of games played. Gaudreau was ineligible to receive an offer sheet last summer since he was signing out of the NCAA when he did, he only received a 2 year ELC and did not meet the minimum amount of games required for Offersheets

Trouba was eligible to an offersheet, he did not have arbitration rights. Come on man, do some homework. As long as McDavid doesnt miss next season it isnt Edmonton or Russia, he will be fair game to offersheets however in any case Edmonton matches so its a moot point


That's for the correction. I did state," I could be wrong." By the way, I'm still waiting to see just one, just one of your Duchene suggestions for a fair trade. Seems you like slams offer folks, but NEVER have any constructive suggestions.

Coga, with your track record, I'm surprised you didn't suggest Duchene for McDavid, but off you wouldn't, you would think that would be an overpayment by the Avs.
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Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:56 p.m.
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Its going to take a Kings Randsom to pry the face of the NHL away from the Oilers at 20 years old and will dominating this league for the next 12-14 years


Absolutely. But the trade I am disputing involves three other players who will also be dominant for the next 12-14 years - two of whom are younger than McDavid. The four players suggested represent 81 goals and over 200 points so far this season, and all are rookies who will only get better.

McDavid is the arguably the most valuable single trade asset in the NHL, but isn't worth the 4 players mentioned above IMO.


McDavid literally carries his team. His defensive game is soooooo underrated because it gets overshadowed by his offensive totals. Don't get me wrong the first three are all unbelievable players. But realistically if Shanaplan came up to Chiapet and asked for McJesus, then the asking price would Matthews, Marner and something else significant. The latter two are going to be carrying the Leafs in the future. They don't right now (I mean they basically do but not on McDavid's level, not even close). That is why McDavid is worth that much more because he literally carries the Oilers in his second season.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 9:57 p.m.
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Its going to take a Kings Randsom to pry the face of the NHL away from the Oilers at 20 years old and will dominating this league for the next 12-14 years


Absolutely. But the trade I am disputing involves three other players who will also be dominant for the next 12-14 years - two of whom are younger than McDavid. The four players suggested represent 81 goals and over 200 points so far this season, and all are rookies who will only get better.

McDavid is the arguably the most valuable single trade asset in the NHL, but isn't worth the 4 players mentioned above IMO.


Not the combo of those 4 players but he is absolutely worth up to 4 prime assets. Teams would be throwing their future if there was a chance to get him bc they felt he didnt want to be in Edmonton
Mar. 26, 2017 at 10:03 p.m.
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Absolutely. But the trade I am disputing involves three other players who will also be dominant for the next 12-14 years - two of whom are younger than McDavid. The four players suggested represent 81 goals and over 200 points so far this season, and all are rookies who will only get better.

McDavid is the arguably the most valuable single trade asset in the NHL, but isn't worth the 4 players mentioned above IMO.


Not the combo of those 4 players but he is absolutely worth up to 4 prime assets. Teams would be throwing their future if there was a chance to get him bc they felt he didnt want to be in Edmonton


Agreed.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 10:10 p.m.
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Absolutely. But the trade I am disputing involves three other players who will also be dominant for the next 12-14 years - two of whom are younger than McDavid. The four players suggested represent 81 goals and over 200 points so far this season, and all are rookies who will only get better.

McDavid is the arguably the most valuable single trade asset in the NHL, but isn't worth the 4 players mentioned above IMO.


Not the combo of those 4 players but he is absolutely worth up to 4 prime assets. Teams would be throwing their future if there was a chance to get him bc they felt he didnt want to be in Edmonton


In my opinion this is what it would take to get McDavid. Something along the lines of:

Carolina Hurricanes
Connor McDavid

Edmonton Oilers
Jaccob Slavin
Sebastian Aho
Victor Rask
Elias Lindholm
Eddie Lack
Haydn Fleury
1st round pick 2017
1st round pick 2018
2nd round pick 2020
4th round pick 2018

And i don't think either team would do that.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 10:17 p.m.
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McDavid for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, and 3 first rounders. Edmonton did a similar trade once.

With the success of the Oilers this year, I doubt McDavid has any thoughts of requesting a trade. But doesn't mean he isn't going to be UFA in six more years.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 10:25 p.m.
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McDavid for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, and 3 first rounders. Edmonton did a similar trade once.

With the success of the Oilers this year, I doubt McDavid has any thoughts of requesting a trade. But doesn't mean he isn't going to be UFA in six more years.


There is a 0% chance McDavid is going to be a UFA in 6 years. That means Oilers sign him to a 5 year extension....that isnt going to happen. His next contract is going to be 8 years and whatever happens in the length of that contract is a different story.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 10:29 p.m.
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McDavid for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, and 3 first rounders. Edmonton did a similar trade once.

With the success of the Oilers this year, I doubt McDavid has any thoughts of requesting a trade. But doesn't mean he isn't going to be UFA in six more years.


One of the things that made the Gretzky trade so bad was that the 1st rounders never played like 1st rounders.
Mar. 26, 2017 at 11:54 p.m.
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You all dont realize one of the biggest reasons McDavid wont be traded. The "McDavid Effect"... Edmonton can finally attract free agents who want to come to play with CMD, which is an important piece alot of ogher teams take for granted. This team hasnt been a destintation since Gretz left, CMD added that on top of everything else he brings. Draft picks and Mitch Marners wont bring that.
 
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