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McDavid to OTT-preliminary

Created by: SupremeBone
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 30, 2021
Published: Dec. 30, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
3$1,500,000
2$900,000
2$800,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Sanderson, Jake [Reserve List]
  3. Stützle, Tim
  4. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
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I have no idea what fair value for McDavid looks like, but the deal HAS to include The Steuz, a top D prospect, and a quality NHLer alongside at least 1 high pick. Where's the line between too much and not enough from each side?
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2022
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2023
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2024
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23$82,500,000$72,752,795$896,000$4,700,000$9,747,205
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,600,000$3,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 30, 2021 at 8:17 p.m.
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The value of McDavid is too high. Almost as high as Loui Eriksson’s value
Dec. 30, 2021 at 8:18 p.m.
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LMAOOOOOOO
Dec. 30, 2021 at 8:37 p.m.
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Unless you're sending Wright, Bedard, and Chabot - its an emphatic NO
Dec. 30, 2021 at 8:41 p.m.
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add norris and this years first and you have a starting point
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Dec. 30, 2021 at 8:46 p.m.
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There's no "too much" line to worry about. If Edmonton ever traded McDavid for some reason, they should get half a dozen prime assets easily.
Next four 1st round picks and 2 best prospects is a starting point.
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Dec. 30, 2021 at 9:05 p.m.
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Yeah, you're looking at something like Stutzle, Norris, Chabot, Bernard-Docker, 2023 1st
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Dec. 30, 2021 at 9:24 p.m.
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If you are legitimately wanted to know his value, look at the Eichel deal. Eichel is injured and has played zero playoff games and has zero Hart or Art Ross trophies.

I think you start at 3 first round picks + 5 or 6 high end players and that gets you in the ball park. And that includes adding Barrie and Kassian in the trade.
Dec. 30, 2021 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
The value of McDavid is too high. Almost as high as Loui Eriksson’s value


Lol, and Puljujarvi getting Loui Eriksson money in this ACGM as well
Dec. 30, 2021 at 10:39 p.m.
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McDavid's NMC will kick in at the start of the 2022-2023 season and he's not waiving it to go from Edmonton to Ottawa.

Try again.
Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:36 a.m.
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Seems that the consensus is I could ask for more tears of joy Good to know! Thanks guys!
Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
The value of McDavid is too high. Almost as high as Loui Eriksson’s value


Impossible. Don't you know that Loui Eriksson was twice voted the league's most underrated player? wink
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Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Grievous
If you are legitimately wanted to know his value, look at the Eichel deal. Eichel is injured and has played zero playoff games and has zero Hart or Art Ross trophies.

I think you start at 3 first round picks + 5 or 6 high end players and that gets you in the ball park. And that includes adding Barrie and Kassian in the trade.


Can't say I agree with THAT range, but I get your general point of being able to aim higher. As an Oiler fan, I value Steutzle higher than any two combined assets BUF got for Eichel and Sanderson more than any asset in that trade- hence my poor gauge for his value.
Dec. 31, 2021 at 11:39 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 31, 2021 at 12:03 p.m.
Quoting: ItsBlowTime
Yeah, you're looking at something like Stutzle, Norris, Chabot, Bernard-Docker, 2023 1st


I wouldn't do that, as good as McDavid is.

Stutzle is going to be pretty damn good himself and has several years of being much cheaper

Sure McDavid will always be the best but the difference between the 2 (considering age and contracts too) wouldn't be :

- 24 y/o 2-way workhorse smooth effortless skater D-man, signed 7 more years at 8.0

- 22 y/o 30+ goals scorer and 2-way center

- 21 y/o future reliable 2nd pairing D-man

- first round pick

Quoting: Grievous
If you are legitimately wanted to know his value, look at the Eichel deal. Eichel is injured and has played zero playoff games and has zero Hart or Art Ross trophies.

I think you start at 3 first round picks + 5 or 6 high end players and that gets you in the ball park. And that includes adding Barrie and Kassian in the trade.


lol ridiculous. 27 y/o Gretzky didn't return anything close to that. Lindros returned more (biggest hype in history) but still not even close and that kind of trade won't ever happen. Teams have learned since.

Quoting: SupremeBone
Seems that the consensus is I could ask for more tears of joy Good to know! Thanks guys!


More, probably but your attempt is much more realistic than anything else I have seen so far. I have been witnessing fans being out of touch with players values basically since the internet has been affordable. Look at Eichel for example and how some were saying it would take the moon.

I like McDavid and Ottawa could really use someone like that just for marketing purposes.

Your proposal already makes me think about it, maybe it's because people underrate what Stutzle and Sanderson are going to be, I don't know but even though you do this, it's not like it was easy pieces to give up (+ an EV/PK beast and a first)

Quoting: SupremeBone
Can't say I agree with THAT range, but I get your general point of being able to aim higher. As an Oiler fan, I value Steutzle higher than any two combined assets BUF got for Eichel and Sanderson more than any asset in that trade- hence my poor gauge for his value.


That's the thing, I doubt Stutzle or Sanderson were even on the table for Eichel, considering his age/contract AND health status

You know like when Miro Heiskanen wasn't for Erik Karlsson in 2018
Dec. 31, 2021 at 12:13 p.m.
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Add Norris, Tkachuk and the entire sens roster and your good
Dec. 31, 2021 at 12:14 p.m.
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And every last draft pick you own
 
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