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Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 31, 2021
Published: Dec. 31, 2021
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Dubas can Make the cap work
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Jost, Tyson
  2. 2022 5th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
    Waivers
    Anywhere
    3.
    TOR
    1. Miller, Colin ($1,937,500 retained)
    BUF
    1. Abramov, Mikhail
    2. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
    3. 2023 6th round pick (TOR)
    4.
    TOR
    1. Ennis, Tyler
    Additional Details:
    Anywhere for anything
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$81,500,000$81,370,616$0$400,000$129,384
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
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    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 4
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,645,000$1,645,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,650,000$1,650,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,937,500$1,937,500
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,800,000$3,800,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $894,167$894,167
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $853,333$853,333 ($0$0$0$0)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 3:59 p.m.
    #1
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    Id be fine with giving futures for Holl but moving Jost for him doesnt make sense for COL. The value is in COL's favour in this deal though
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.
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    Spezza >> Ritchie.
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: UpsideDownQue
    Id be fine with giving futures for Holl but moving Jost for him doesnt make sense for COL

    What would you be willing to give up?
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
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    avs are not trading Jost for a Dman who would have a hard time even making the 3rd pair if they are healthy (which the avs d core is right now)
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:31 p.m.
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    Jost is pretty terrible and miller is worse than Holl so these make no sense.
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:44 p.m.
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    Buffalo will get a 2nd for Miller if we retain
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Holl is worth a lot more than that, especially for a player (Jost) that Leafs don't need. Miller gets more in a trade. Sorry, "anywhere" for Ritchie makes no sense, since he has negative value
    Just keep Holl
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:21 p.m.
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    keep jost. maybe throw a 5th at holl if the avs have the space next year.
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Jost is pretty terrible and miller is worse than Holl so these make no sense.


    Jost is not terrible, I dont think you are aware of his impacts are defensively and on the PK.
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
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    Jost is not terrible, I dont think you are aware of his impacts are defensively and on the PK.


    Jost is terrible, i dont think you are aware of his impacts on defence and the PK
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Jost is terrible, i dont think you are aware of his impacts on defence and the PK


    so you didnt look up his stats or dont know what you are looking at if you did.
    Ok man. If you want to believe Jost is terrible to enforce your own personal opinion and over look actual stats and data that says other wise, have fun. But hes not terrible. You can say you dont want him on the Leafs but you dont have to try to diminish the player by making up a narrative about him
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    so you didnt look up his stats or dont know what you are looking at if you did.
    Ok man. If you want to believe Jost is terrible to enforce your own personal opinion and over look actual stats and data that says other wise, have fun. But hes not terrible. You can say you dont want him on the Leafs but you dont have to try to diminish the player by making up a narrative about him


    yeah, actually i did look up his stats, they are not good. Clearly if you think they are good you didnt look them up. He is terrible and that's why id ont want him on the leafs. That isnt diminishing him, that's pointing out that he isnt good and that your narrative about him being good is a fantasy that you've made up
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    yeah, actually i did look up his stats, they are not good. Clearly if you think they are good you didnt look them up. He is terrible and that's why id ont want him on the leafs. That isnt diminishing him, that's pointing out that he isnt good and that your narrative about him being good is a fantasy that you've made up


    and what exactly did you look up, bc Im going to assume you just looked up his box score points and assumed hes just bad.
    I am not living in a fantasy with him, his defensive impacts are solid, and they have been for multiple seasons now.

    And did I say he was good, no I am saying hes not terrible, you are claiming him to be a bad NHLer. He is the opposite of that. He is a serviceable bottom 6 defensive first fwd, that is not a bad NHLer, that is a safe and serviceable one
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
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    and what exactly did you look up, bc Im going to assume you just looked up his box score points and assumed hes just bad.
    I am not living in a fantasy with him, his defensive impacts are solid, and they have been for multiple seasons now.

    And did I say he was good, no I am saying hes not terrible, you are claiming him to be a bad NHLer. He is the opposite of that. He is a serviceable bottom 6 defensive first fwd, that is not a bad NHLer, that is a safe and serviceable one


    literally his advanced defensive metrics. his shot shares, his relative to team mates etc etc etc. he is not good, because he does not limit shots or chances against and does so at a rate worse than the players he plays with, he is a defensive and offensive drag on his linemates and on top of that cannot produce his own offence at all
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:43 p.m.
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    yeah, actually i did look up his stats, they are not good. Clearly if you think they are good you didnt look them up. He is terrible and that's why id ont want him on the leafs. That isnt diminishing him, that's pointing out that he isnt good and that your narrative about him being good is a fantasy that you've made up


    So a guy on track for almost 30 pts plays on the pk, has had to shepherd a plethora of different linemates because of injury including moving around the line up all while being XGD neutral on the highest scoring team on the league. Guess we have different kinds of definition of terrible. Watch him play, don’t judge him on his draft status, he forechecks well, plays a very smart game he’s a good bottom 6 NHLer.
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:51 p.m.
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    So a guy on track for almost 30 pts plays on the pk, has had to shepherd a plethora of different linemates because of injury including moving around the line up all while being XGD neutral on the highest scoring team on the league. Guess we have different kinds of definition of terrible. Watch him play, don’t judge him on his draft status, he forechecks well, plays a very smart game he’s a good bottom 6 NHLer.


    almost 30 points? wow, maybe he'll hit his career high of 23 again all while rocking an on ice shooting percentage 4% higher than his previous career high and toping it off with terrible relative numbers for scoring chances and shot shares.
    He's pretty terrible when you start wanting defenders who have scored almost as much as him on average and 2nd rounders for him. And yes, i have watched him and no i dont care about his draft status. He isnt good, he's a middling bottom 6 guy on his best day and literally the last thing the leafs need
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    almost 30 points? wow, maybe he'll hit his career high of 23 again all while rocking an on ice shooting percentage 4% higher than his previous career high and toping it off with terrible relative numbers for scoring chances and shot shares.
    He's pretty terrible when you start wanting defenders who have scored almost as much as him on average and 2nd rounders for him. And yes, i have watched him and no i dont care about his draft status. He isnt good, he's a middling bottom 6 guy on his best day and literally the last thing the leafs need


    You’re entitled to your opinion, but the Avs aren’t trading him for Holl, but he definitely doesn’t suck if he were as bad as you make him out to be so you think he would have a roll in COL?
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    You’re entitled to your opinion, but the Avs aren’t trading him for Holl, but he definitely doesn’t suck if he were as bad as you make him out to be so you think he would have a roll in COL?


    i mean, everything i pointed out shows that he does suck pretty bad in colorado, and the leafs arnt trading Holl for him, especially with anything added. Which has been my entire point all along. I dont care if the aves dont have a spot for Holl because the deal makes no sense for toronto and Jost would be a 4th liner in toronto at best.
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: mitchmarner16
    What would you be willing to give up?


    like a 3rd and maybe a sweetener. idk what the ask would be for him though
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    i mean, everything i pointed out shows that he does suck pretty bad in colorado, and the leafs arnt trading Holl for him, especially with anything added. Which has been my entire point all along. I dont care if the aves dont have a spot for Holl because the deal makes no sense for toronto and Jost would be a 4th liner in toronto at best.


    Yeah did you look at the last 3 seasons and not just the 27 this year? CF% in close 5v5 situations 49.8, 57.9, 55.1. xGD 0, 9.2, and 5.2 the last 3 years. Like I said you’re entitled to your opinion but I truly wonder how much you have really watched him.
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xqb15a
    Yeah did you look at the last 3 seasons and not just the 27 this year? CF% in close 5v5 situations 49.8, 57.9, 55.1. xGD 0, 9.2, and 5.2 the last 3 years. Like I said you’re entitled to your opinion but I truly wonder how much you have really watched him.


    the dude is literally being outpaced offensivly and defensivly by pierre engvall who everyone here says isnt fit to be claimed off waivers.
    he's got a corsi rel of -5.6 and a fenwick rel of -5.7 and a PDO over 102.
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    the dude is literally being outpaced offensivly and defensivly by pierre engvall who everyone here says isnt fit to be claimed off waivers.
    he's got a corsi rel of -5.6 and a fenwick rel of -5.7 and a PDO over 102.

    One I haven’t said that about Engvall, I kinda like him. Two, come on 27 games and there has been significant scoring effect going on in a lot of those games. Like I said you don’t like him fine it’s your opinion. I don’t have any issue with him in the Avs bottom 6.
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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    One I haven’t said that about Engvall, I kinda like him. Two, come on 27 games and there has been significant scoring effect going on in a lot of those games. Like I said you don’t like him fine it’s your opinion. I don’t have any issue with him in the Avs bottom 6.


    Im pointing out how a player who has a reputation as being less than worthless is outperforming the guy uou are boosting
    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Jost is pretty terrible and miller is worse than Holl so these make no sense.


    Everyones terrible by your standards, but that said, a 2nd and a 3rd is a bit much. A second is the most I'd give up for Jost, maybe not even that.
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    Dec. 31, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.
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    Everyones terrible by your standards, but that said, a 2nd and a 3rd is a bit much. A second is the most I'd give up for Jost, maybe not even that.


    It's not my fault people keep making agms where bad players go to the leafs. If jost is worth a 2nd then i cant wait to see what the leafs get for engvall
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