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whats it gonna take for these guys

Created by: Dmaz026
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 2, 2022
Published: Jan. 2, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Johnson, Ryan3$925,000
Portillo, Erik3$925,000
Power, Owen3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bryson, Jacob2$950,000
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka2$1,100,000
Murray, Brett2$800,000
Olofsson, Victor4$5,400,000
Ruotsalainen, Arttu2$850,000
Brännström, Erik1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Caggiula, Drake1$750,000
Hinostroza, Vinnie2$1,300,000
Pysyk, Mark2$1,300,000
Tokarski, Dustin1$750,000
Letang, Kris2$9,300,000
Miller, Colin2$3,750,000
Holtby, Braden2$4,000,000
Trades
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BUF
  1. Cernak, Erik
TBL
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    1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
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      1. Girard, Samuel
      COL
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        1. Pionk, Neal
        WPG
          Buyouts
          • Cody Hodgson: $791,667
          • Christian Ehrhoff: $0
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          Skinner, Jeff
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          Mittelstadt, Casey
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          Quinn, Jack
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          Krebs, Peyton
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          Okposo, Kyle
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          Peterka, John-Jason
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          Asplund, Rasmus
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          Hinostroza, Vinnie
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          Girgensons, Zemgus
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          Dahlin, Rasmus
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          Jokiharju, Henri
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          Pysyk, Mark
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          Samuelsson, Mattias
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          Girard, Samuel
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          Caggiula, Drake
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          Letang, Kris
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          Murray, Brett
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          Pionk, Neal
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          Cernak, Erik
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          Miller, Colin
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          Jan. 2 at 9:45 a.m.
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          Michael_Peca
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          Cernak is exactly the type of RHD they need with Dahlin. Then Jokiharju with Samuelsson/Bryson and Power with a hopefully resigned Pysyk. Dahlin struggles when teams are real physical with him. He needs a big physical presence to settle him down.
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          Jan. 2 at 9:50 a.m.
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          Because he’s an RFA, I could see a 1rst and a 3rd for Cernak. I don’t think Tampa is in a hurry to get rid of him because he’s young and has low cap. I’d say a 2nd round pick for Brännstrom.
          Jan. 2 at 9:52 a.m.
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          Winnipeg won’t trade one of there best defensemen
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          Jan. 2 at 9:53 a.m.
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          avs would want someone like tuch for girard. not sure why sabers want girard with dahlin and power.
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          Jan. 2 at 10:11 a.m.
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          Quoting: RobbieS
          Cernak is exactly the type of RHD they need with Dahlin. Then Jokiharju with Samuelsson/Bryson and Power with a hopefully resigned Pysyk. Dahlin struggles when teams are real physical with him. He needs a big physical presence to settle him down.


          Or Carlo, Carlo would be awesome!
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          Jan. 2 at 10:15 a.m.
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          Quoting: DirtyDangle
          avs would want someone like tuch for girard. not sure why sabers want girard with dahlin and power.


          Girard doesn't make much sense IMO, I'd want someone like Cernak or Carlo to go with Dahlin or Power.
          Jan. 2 at 10:30 a.m.
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          Cernak is most needed, but I don't know if Tampa is ready to trade him, their RD depth does not seem good.
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          Jan. 2 at 10:35 a.m.
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          More than you probably are willing to give up in tuch to get girard from the avs
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          Jan. 2 at 10:37 a.m.
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          Quoting: coga16
          More than you probably are willing to give up in tuch to get girard from the avs


          I through Girard in as a feeler, i knew the price was going to be high. If it costs Tuch idek if the Sabres even consider it.
          Jan. 2 at 10:39 a.m.
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          Can't see the Jets trading Pionk for a couple years at least, he's their best dman.
          Jan. 2 at 10:44 a.m.
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          For Brannstrom, it's going to take a 2nd round pick.

          Like in the Jake Bean trade between Carolina and Columbus.

          https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/jake-bean
          Jan. 2 at 11:03 a.m.
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          Quoting: Dmaz026
          I through Girard in as a feeler, i knew the price was going to be high. If it costs Tuch idek if the Sabres even consider it.


          I wouldn't trade Girard for Tuch. Imo, Girard is very underrated by folks on this site, and Tuch (while I like him quite a bit) is the opposite. Girard also plays a more valuable position. Buffalo would need to add in order for me to think about it. Just my opinion though. Others obviously might feel differently.
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          Jan. 2 at 11:25 a.m.
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          Edited Jan. 2 at 12:18 p.m.
          A 1&3 may be Cernak s market value, however his value to TB is far greater than that. He's their best player at their weakest position and still has 3 RFA years. So, unless it's a grotesque overpay they'd have ZERO reason to trade him. Besides he is 1of only 3 NHL ready RHD under contract
          Jan. 2 at 12:18 p.m.
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          Quoting: Anus_McLeod
          I wouldn't trade Girard for Tuch. Imo, Girard is very underrated by folks on this site, and Tuch (while I like him quite a bit) is the opposite. Girard also plays a more valuable position. Buffalo would need to add in order for me to think about it. Just my opinion though. Others obviously might feel differently.


          a straight up trade would be fine value. But it's not a fit rn for the Avs. They need Girard. Could be done in the off season depending on how things go.
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          Jan. 2 at 12:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: earl08
          a straight up trade would be fine value. But it's not a fit rn for the Avs. They need Girard. Could be done in the off season depending on how things go.


          I think they can do better than Tuch. For example, they can chase Hertl and Gio in free agency and then trade Girard for futures. Even that I'm lukewarm on, and this particular example is obviously a long shot, but it's a better strategy than movung Sam straight up for a middle six wing (imo).
          Jan. 2 at 2:39 p.m.
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          Cernak isnt going anywhere, hes our best RHD and is very underrated. it would take more than his value to pry him out of Tampa. talking an unprotected 1st + a top prospect
          Jan. 2 at 3:15 p.m.
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          3/4 guys aren’t going anywhere

          9.3M for KRIS LETANG?
          Jan. 2 at 4:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: IconicHawk
          3/4 guys aren’t going anywhere

          9.3M for KRIS LETANG?


          Price you might have to pay to get people to Buffalo. And when you have 20mill in cap why not have a great partner for Power or Dahlin
          Jan. 2 at 5:03 p.m.
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          Quoting: Dmaz026
          Price you might have to pay to get people to Buffalo. And when you have 20mill in cap why not have a great partner for Power or Dahlin


          Thank god it’s only two years
          Jan. 2 at 5:20 p.m.
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          Girard would at a minimum be Tuch + a decent kicker, nothing else makes sense for them. Contracts work out, Girard plays the more important position and is better, Tuch has a bit of an injury history and some consistency concerns this the kicker. Maybe a 2nd rd pick in 23 or 24.
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          Jan. 2 at 5:23 p.m.
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          Quoting: Anus_McLeod
          I think they can do better than Tuch. For example, they can chase Hertl and Gio in free agency and then trade Girard for futures. Even that I'm lukewarm on, and this particular example is obviously a long shot, but it's a better strategy than movung Sam straight up for a middle six wing (imo).


          I don’t disagree if they could make a Girard for Teravainen trade work that would be kinda sweet.
          Jan. 3 at 4:18 a.m.
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          Tuch (or possibly Olofsson) PLUS for Girard (with the plus being more or less depending on which) so Buffalo wouldn't be likely to pay it.
           
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