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Rebuild the right way

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 3, 2022
Published: Jan. 3, 2022
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Description
Realize I didn't write the Wright instead of right way.
These trades are also based on of who would want out from a rebuilt and who wouldnt
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Harris, Jordan [Reserve List]
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
2.
MTL
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. Jokiharju, Henri
  3. Peterka, John-Jason
Additional Details:
Probably sabres reject.
BUF
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
3.
MTL
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Zary, Connor
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2023 5th round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
2nd and 5th is to compensate for lucics contract.
4.
MTL
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (WPG)
5.
MTL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
6.
DET
  1. Petry, Jeff
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
7.
MTL
  1. Niemelä, Topi [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
8.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Reserve List]
  2. Keith, Duncan
  3. Konovalov, Ilya
  4. Koskinen, Mikko
  5. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
I know we don't know how Carey is going to be, but let's say he plays like his normal self till the trade deadline.
EDM
  1. Price, Carey ($2,625,000 retained)
9.
MTL
  1. Francouz, Pavel
  2. O'Connor, Logan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Allen, Jake ($1,437,500 retained)
10.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (STL)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (OTT)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (STL)
11.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
12.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
13.
MTL
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (FLA)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (FLA)
14.
MTL
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Paquette, Cédric
    2. 2022 7th round pick (STL)
    Additional Details:
    ANYONE TAKE HIM
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the NYI
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the MTL
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    2023
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    Logo of the COL
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    Logo of the EDM
    Logo of the FLA
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$66,294,772$597,561$2,325,000$15,205,228
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Minnesota Wild
    $5,100,000$5,100,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $725,000$725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $5,538,462$5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $761,250$761,250
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 3, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
    #26
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    Quoting: HabsIsland
    FYI I never and still don't want a rebuild with this roster. There is too many good players of value on the team to trade. IMO Habs should start adding to make it better. But since every single fan starts yelling start the rebuild after every game loss. I just am saying don't rebuild but if you want to you'll have to do it this way


    I see my apologies than cause we are of like mind, our roster has holes (2RD, 2C and 1LD) but we do have some very very good hockey players and rebuilding seems counter productive to me. We have a good future core set up to take over in 1-3 years and a team that can make the playoffs with 2 or 3 good moves. These kinds of threads just irritate me, hence the comments lol. Thanks for clearing up your motive behind the thread and again I apologize for my responses.
    Jan. 3, 2022 at 6:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    avs wouldnt trade Frankie for Allen..., when healthy Francouz is the better goalie, and you think you can get a 1st and Logan O'Connor? Yikes this is just some beyond Montreal homerism.

    Do you even know how good O'Connor is?


    Of course I do O'Connor is very good. No wonder the announcers by mistake call him Mackinnon. He is a mini nate. Francouz is never going to go back to before. And Allen's stats are bad bc he plays on the Habs. Francouz is good bc Colorado is good.
    Jan. 3, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsIsland
    Of course I do O'Connor is very good. No wonder the announcers by mistake call him Mackinnon. He is a mini nate. Francouz is never going to go back to before. And Allen's stats are bad bc he plays on the Habs. Francouz is good bc Colorado is good.


    Francouz has been good in every league he has played in, hes not good bc "Colorado makes him good"
    Allen is bad bc Allen is bad, he was bad on the blues too
    Jan. 3, 2022 at 7:03 p.m.
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    Sabres probably reject? Try the Sabres certainly reject I wouldn’t do Hoffman + a 3rd for Joki. I also wouldn’t do Hoffman+ a 3rd for Peterka. Put them both together and you have a laughing matter.
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    Jan. 3, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
    #30
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    Quoting: Campabee
    I see my apologies than cause we are of like mind, our roster has holes (2RD, 2C and 1LD) but we do have some very very good hockey players and rebuilding seems counter productive to me. We have a good future core set up to take over in 1-3 years and a team that can make the playoffs with 2 or 3 good moves. These kinds of threads just irritate me, hence the comments lol. Thanks for clearing up your motive behind the thread and again I apologize for my responses.


    Exactly! Though unless Petry regains his form we need a 1rd. Which is why Maillouxs selection bothered me bc he Won't end up playing on the Habs. It was totally a wasted 1st round pick.
    Suzuki hasn't been as good this year but that's probably from him having to take more defense responsibilities. Still I am disappointed from zukes. The thing for #1 LD is that we can't go for someone like chychrun bc norlinder,guhle,Harris,romy are here. And if one or 2 of them are worthy of top Ld pair, they should be granted with it. The only thing is we would need a veteran LD on a 1-3 year contract who is top d caliber. Just for this year Habs should sell the rentals and try to contend next year and so forth. It would be risky to waste 2-4 years of zukes,cole,romy during a rebuild while playing with not up to par linemates
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    Jan. 3, 2022 at 7:47 p.m.
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    why are the Oilers giving up picks in that trade
    Jan. 3, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
    #32
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    Quoting: HabsIsland
    Gallagher is better than lucic which makes the difference.


    Not this year, he isn't.

    But that's irrelevant, because you're missing the entire point. Gallagher turns 30 at the end of this season and his current contract runs until he's 35. We already know what Lucic's 32nd and 33rd years are going to be like, because he's already lived them; in contrast, Gallagher has been declining over the past two seasons, his 32nd and 33rd years are still two seasons away, whatever team owns him is going to have to pay him $17 million over those two years, and then there's two more years under contract after that. That's why his value is no where near what you think it is.

    You're also overlooking the fact that Gallagher has a $1.25 million higher cap hit than Lucic, which will make resigning Tkachuk and Gaudreau all that more difficult.
    Jan. 3, 2022 at 9:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Not this year, he isn't.

    But that's irrelevant, because you're missing the entire point. Gallagher turns 30 at the end of this season and his current contract runs until he's 35. We already know what Lucic's 32nd and 33rd years are going to be like, because he's already lived them; in contrast, Gallagher has been declining over the past two seasons, his 32nd and 33rd years are still two seasons away, whatever team owns him is going to have to pay him $17 million over those two years, and then there's two more years under contract after that. That's why his value is no where near what you think it is.

    You're also overlooking the fact that Gallagher has a $1.25 million higher cap hit than Lucic, which will make resigning Tkachuk and Gaudreau all that more difficult.


    His point total has decreased bc of injuries. He would score 25 to 30 goals in a full year, along with 45 to 55 points
    Jan. 4, 2022 at 11:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: HabsIsland
    The only player on Calgary that is comparable to Fiala is Tkachuk. Would you like the same trade with Minnesota just Tkachuk instead of Fiala?


    Tkachuk is far, far better than Fiala...
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    Jan. 4, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Welcome to CapFriendly. Sometimes, it's not too friendly, but don't let that discourage you.

    I think that most of your trades overvalue the players on your favorite team. For example, I think the generally accepted trade value for Artturi Lehkonen is a third and for Brett Kulak is a fifth; Montembeault and Niku are barely worth a seventh. Chariot is not getting you a first and an A prospect and Detroit isn't trading their future #1RD for Jeff Petry. The Edmonton trade is an over-reach by Evan Bouchard.

    Brendan Gallagher's contract is much, much worse than Milan Lucic's, in cap hit, term, and actual money. (Two and three seasons from now, he's getting paid a total of $17 million, and his contract runs for two years AFTER that.)


    I remember when Pacioretty was declining and Vegas still gave up Suzuki, Tatar, and a 2nd, while also signing him to a 4x7 contract at 30.
    Fast forward 3 years and suddenly 30 goal scorers are cap dumps at 30 years old and $6.5M.
    Apr. 3, 2022 at 12:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Welcome to CapFriendly. Sometimes, it's not too friendly, but don't let that discourage you.

    I think that most of your trades overvalue the players on your favorite team. For example, I think the generally accepted trade value for Artturi Lehkonen is a third and for Brett Kulak is a fifth; Montembeault and Niku are barely worth a seventh. Chariot is not getting you a first and an A prospect and Detroit isn't trading their future #1RD for Jeff Petry. The Edmonton trade is an over-reach by Evan Bouchard.

    Brendan Gallagher's contract is much, much worse than Milan Lucic's, in cap hit, term, and actual money. (Two and three seasons from now, he's getting paid a total of $17 million, and his contract runs for two years AFTER that.)


    Generally accepted value is a 3rd and a 5th. Huh.
    Apr. 3, 2022 at 2:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
    Generally accepted value is a 3rd and a 5th. Huh.


    I'd rather be wrong with the crowd that underestimated Hughes' ability to strike deals (i.e., virtually the entire universe outside Montreal fans) than the only guy in North America who thinks that Josh Anderson has more value than Arthur Kaliyev.
     
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