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fixing the cap mess Holland has made

Created by: sammy1414
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2022
Published: Jan. 5, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
3$800,000
3$750,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
5$2,500,000
6$4,400,000
1$800,000
3$1,100,000
4$1,800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
1$750,000
4$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$4,500,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. McCann, Jared [RFA Rights]
  2. Soucy, Carson
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. 2023 4th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (PHI)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (COL)
ARI
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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Logo of the NYI
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Logo of the NJD
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2024
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Logo of the COL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$78,052,795$896,000$2,200,000$4,447,205
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,800,000$1,800,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$825,000$825,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 5, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.
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Ken Holland Hater
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Nuge cant be traded (NMC) and even if he could why would we trade him?

We could probably just straight up get a 4th for Kassian if Holland wanted to move him.

The Nurse trade is probably doable without 2 1sts rounders (and the picks from Arizona) just due to Nurses name value.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
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Hard pass on that nurse contract
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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Glad to see someone who feels the same way about Nurse’s contract as I do
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 6:53 p.m.
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Member when Oilers fans wanted to declare Holland a living hockey genius when he made the Lucic for Neal trade? I member.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Petey232323
Nuge cant be traded (NMC) and even if he could why would we trade him?

We could probably just straight up get a 4th for Kassian if Holland wanted to move him.

The Nurse trade is probably doable without 2 1sts rounders (and the picks from Arizona) just due to Nurses name value.


1) I think Nuge would waive to possibly be the top center in Seattle

2) Let's be honest Nuge is a good guy, team guy... but he just can't get it done

3) I just don't see Arizona taking Nurse's contracts without the 1st rounds picks....... and if I was Arizona's gm I would then trade Nurse with some retention for another 1st round pick
Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Petey232323
The Nurse trade is probably doable without 2 1sts rounders (and the picks from Arizona) just due to Nurses name value.


No, it's not doable without the 1sts. Nurse's contract is too big. He's not a bad defenseman, but if he were actually traded, his contract would make him a negative asset. 8x$9.25M with a NMC isn't exactly a good contract for someone like Nurse. Even when not taking contracts into consideration, the difference between Nurse and Chychrun isn't just a 2nd.
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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Member when Oilers fans wanted to declare Holland a living hockey genius when he made the Lucic for Neal trade? I member.


Yup. Looking worse and worse for Edmonton
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Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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No way Arizona Wants anything to do with that nurse contract, he’s making 12m a season basically for the first half of it, Arizona isn’t playing that type of salary for a plate
Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.
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Well this is one way to ensure another 15 straight seasons without playoffs.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: sammy1414
1) I think Nuge would waive to possibly be the top center in Seattle

2) Let's be honest Nuge is a good guy, team guy... but he just can't get it done

3) I just don't see Arizona taking Nurse's contracts without the 1st rounds picks....... and if I was Arizona's gm I would then trade Nurse with some retention for another 1st round pick


1) Why would he? he's playing 2nd line here and the fans love him

2) that's just wrong

3) Nurse is valued as an elite player by hockey men. I'm sure a team would take him without 2 1st round picks being added lol.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Ken Holland Hater
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No, it's not doable without the 1sts. Nurse's contract is too big. He's not a bad defenseman, but if he were actually traded, his contract would make him a negative asset. 8x$9.25M with a NMC isn't exactly a good contract for someone like Nurse. Even when not taking contracts into consideration, the difference between Nurse and Chychrun isn't just a 2nd.


It is doable without the 1sts. IF a player is valued as an elite player by hockey men that reputation does not go away just because they signed a big contract lol.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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Ken Holland Hater
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Yup. Looking worse and worse for Edmonton


not really. we got what we wanted out of the trade. a neal buyout. when Lucic's contract was pretty much buyout proof at the time.
Jan. 5, 2022 at 8:51 p.m.
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It is doable without the 1sts. IF a player is valued as an elite player by hockey men that reputation does not go away just because they signed a big contract lol.


The reputation doesn't go away. I never said that. But his value goes away. A player like Weegar with his contract has a lot more value than Nurse does with his.
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