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Turning the page to the next chapter

Created by: sensonfire
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 8, 2022
Published: Jan. 8, 2022
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Bordeleau, Thomas3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Ferraro, Mario6$6,750,000
Dahlén, Jonathan2$1,825,000
Gregor, Noah1$750,000
Merkley, Nick1$750,000
Sawchenko, Zach1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hertl, Tomas8$8,000,000
Tierney, Chris1$1,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Lambert, Brad3$925,000
Trades
1.
SJS
    Moving on to start a new life somewhere.
    OTT
    1. Kane, Evander
    2.
    SJS
    1. Shore, Devin
    EDM
      Trade made at the deadline for Andrew Cogliano.
      3.
      SJS
      1. 2022 3rd round pick (FLA)
      FLA
        Trade made at the deadline for Alexander Barabanov.
        Buyouts
        • Martin Jones: $2,416,667
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$81,500,000$81,444,167$0$1,282,500$55,833

        Roster

        Left WingCenterRight Wing
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        Meier, Timo
        $6,000,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
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        Couture, Logan
        $8,000,000
        C, LW
        NTC
        UFA - 5
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        Hertl, Tomas
        $8,000,000
        C, RW
        NMC
        UFA - 8
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        Eklund, William
        $925,000
        LW
        RFA - 2
        Lambert, Brad
        $925,000
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        Labanc, Kevin
        $4,725,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 2
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        Dahlén, Jonathan
        $1,825,000
        LW, RW
        RFA
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        Bonino, Nick
        $2,050,000
        C
        NTC
        UFA - 1
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        Balcers, Rūdolfs
        $1,550,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
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        Gregor, Noah
        $750,000
        LW, RW
        RFA
        Tierney, Chris
        $1,000,000
        C
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        Nieto, Matt
        $850,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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        Ferraro, Mario
        $6,750,000
        LD
        RFA
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        Burns, Brent
        $8,000,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
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        Reimer, James
        $2,250,000
        G
        NTC
        UFA - 1
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        Simek, Radim
        $2,250,000
        LD
        UFA - 2
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        Karlsson, Erik
        $11,500,000
        RD
        NMC
        UFA - 5
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        Hill, Adin
        $2,175,000
        G
        UFA - 1
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        Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
        $7,000,000
        LD/RD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
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        Merkley, Ryan
        $863,333
        RD
        RFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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        Shore, Devin
        $850,000
        LW, C, RW
        UFA - 1
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        Kniazev, Artemi
        $789,167
        LD
        RFA - 2

        Special Teams

        Power Play 1
        Meier, T.
        Couture, L.
        Hertl, T.
        Eklund, W.
        Burns, B.
        Power Play 2
        Dahlén, J.
        Bonino, N.
        Labanc, K.
        Gregor, N.
        Karlsson, E.
        Penalty Kill 1
        Couture, L.
        Hertl, T.
        Ferraro, M.
        Burns, B.
        Penalty Kill 2
        Bonino, N.
        Tierney, C.
        Vlasic, M.
        Karlsson, E.

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        Jan. 8 at 6:53 p.m.
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        I guess Weatherby and Knyzhov don't make the team for some reason. And you overpaid Ferraro by just a bit.
        Jan. 8 at 7:01 p.m.
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        So it's not a buyout for Kane?
        Jan. 8 at 7:03 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
        So it's not a buyout for Kane?


        Nah contract termination
        Jan. 8 at 7:04 p.m.
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        Quoting: crankshaft
        I guess Weatherby and Knyzhov don't make the team for some reason. And you overpaid Ferraro by just a bit.


        Have you seen Ferraro's workout routines from his YouTube channel, Youngest of Plugs?

        The guy's a beast.

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhY5FwQ0mdBBoX1gnuH5wn3rbzPVDcVCz
        Jan. 8 at 7:22 p.m.
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        I don't see the NHLPA winning their case to keep SJS from dumping Kane. After that maaaaybe the Canes take him on for $1M - their gamble with DeAngelo seems to be working out for them.
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        Jan. 8 at 7:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Have you seen Ferraro's workout routines from his YouTube channel, Youngest of Plugs?

        The guy's a beast.

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhY5FwQ0mdBBoX1gnuH5wn3rbzPVDcVCz


        I know Mario's game well. He will get a bridge deal.
        Jan. 8 at 8:22 p.m.
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        Why would the sharks trade Cogliano for another player? And Barabanov is getting more than that
        Jan. 8 at 8:24 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Have you seen Ferraro's workout routines from his YouTube channel, Youngest of Plugs?

        The guy's a beast.

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhY5FwQ0mdBBoX1gnuH5wn3rbzPVDcVCz


        Why would he be paid based on his YouTube workout videos with ~1000 views over his play on the ice, which is just so-so.
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        Jan. 8 at 8:43 p.m.
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        Edited Jan. 8 at 9:01 p.m.
        Quoting: glarson17
        Why would the sharks trade Cogliano for another player? And Barabanov is getting more than that


        Because Cogliano is a 34 year old pending UFA on a team that is missing the playoffs this year?

        And it's also what he was traded for exactly 3 years ago?

        Hello?



        And good luck getting a 1st round pick for Barabanov.
        Jan. 8 at 8:52 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Because Cogliano is a 34 year old pending UFA on a team that is missing the playoffs this year?

        And it's also what he was traded for exactly 2 years ago?

        Hello?



        And good luck getting a 1st round pick for Barabanov.


        What? You are literally spitting drivel that no one else is talking about.
        Jan. 8 at 8:52 p.m.
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        Quoting: Klara
        Why would he be paid based on his YouTube workout videos with ~1000 views over his play on the ice, which is just so-so.


        I've seen this user troll sharks fans in the past. They are simply looking to trigger SJ fans.
        Jan. 8 at 8:55 p.m.
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        Quoting: Klara
        Why would he be paid based on his YouTube workout videos with ~1000 views over his play on the ice, which is just so-so.


        His workout videos and the other stuff on his channel illustrate his commitment off the ice to become a stronger player on the ice.

        He also plays 24 minutes of TOI per game, he has gotten better every season with the Sharks and has played just as well as Ivan Provorov this year, who has the same contract.



        And diminishing what Ferraro is worth and dismissing my appraisal of him because his videos don't get enough views is ridiculous.

        Try again.
        Jan. 8 at 8:57 p.m.
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        Edited Jan. 8 at 9:09 p.m.
        Quoting: crankshaft
        What? You are literally spitting drivel that no one else is talking about.


        I'm talking about the same thing you and glarson are talking about.

        Want to try again and stop gaslighting?
        Jan. 8 at 9:10 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Because Cogliano is a 34 year old pending UFA on a team that is missing the playoffs this year?

        And it's also what he was traded for exactly 3 years ago?

        Hello?



        And good luck getting a 1st round pick for Barabanov.


        Excuse me? Who tf you? Barabanov is returning more than a late 3rd rounder and I didn’t say he was bringing back a first, not sure what you’re on. There no point in trading Cogliano for another player, might as well just keep him. If they trade him they are getting a 4th or 5th rounder.
        Jan. 8 at 9:19 p.m.
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        Edited Jan. 8 at 9:28 p.m.
        Quoting: glarson17
        Excuse me? Who tf you? Barabanov is returning more than a late 3rd rounder and I didn’t say he was bringing back a first, not sure what you’re on. There no point in trading Cogliano for another player, might as well just keep him. If they trade him they are getting a 4th or 5th rounder.


        You say "excuse me?" and then proceed to use coarse language.

        You're funny.



        I made an assumption because too often, people like you grossly overvalue their own players.

        When Barabanov was traded from the Leafs, the Sharks gave up a middling prospect for him.

        I'm not that far off when I say he might only get a 3rd round pick.

        Cope.



        You realize that 4th and 5th round picks have like a 20% chance or less of playing 100 games in the NHL?

        https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/

        Sharks are getting another NHL player for Cogliano ... with term.



        No need to keep attacking someone from outside your fanbase.
        Jan. 8 at 9:29 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        His workout videos and the other stuff on his channel illustrate his commitment off the ice to become a stronger player on the ice.

        He also plays 24 minutes of TOI per game, he has gotten better every season with the Sharks and has played just as well as Ivan Provorov this year, who has the same contract.



        And diminishing what Ferraro is worth and dismissing my appraisal of him because his videos don't get enough views is ridiculous.

        Try again.


        Have you watched him play at all or seen any of his analytics? Or are you just going off of his TOI?
        Jan. 8 at 9:38 p.m.
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        Quoting: Klara
        Have you watched him play at all or seen any of his analytics? Or are you just going off of his TOI?


        I'm on the East Coast, so that means Sharks games don't end until like 12:30AM eastern.

        Past my bedtime.

        Sorry.



        And his analytics over the last three seasons suggests he's getting better and more reliable.

        And they are more important than the # of views he gets on his videos, amirite?
        Jan. 8 at 9:46 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        I'm on the East Coast, so that means Sharks games don't end until like 12:30AM eastern.

        Past my bedtime.

        Sorry.



        And his analytics over the last three seasons suggests he's getting better and more reliable.

        And they are more important than the # of views he gets on his videos, amirite?


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        ummmm, his analytics have suggested he's all flash no substance, which the play on the ice often represents (been much better the past few weeks though), he is extremely athletic and competitive, but is extremely prone to defensive breakdowns. If you have analytics from another source, I'd actually really want to see it (really, I cancelled my subscription to EvolvingHockey a while back).
        Jan. 8 at 9:51 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        You say "excuse me?" and then proceed to use coarse language.

        You're funny.



        I made an assumption because too often, people like you grossly overvalue their own players.

        When Barabanov was traded from the Leafs, the Sharks gave up a middling prospect for him.

        I'm not that far off when I say he might only get a 3rd round pick.

        Cope.



        You realize that 4th and 5th round picks have like a 20% chance or less of playing 100 games in the NHL?

        https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/

        Sharks are getting another NHL player for Cogliano ... with term.



        No need to keep attacking someone from outside your fanbase.


        He has 20 points in 30 games playing in the top 6, he’s getting more than a late 3rd period. I don’t care what they got him for, that has zero impact on what they would get for him now in a trade based on his play. I’d rather sign a guy who actually brings something to a lineup and take a chance on 4th rounder honestly. Sharks got Brandon Coe in the 4th and he’s a top point getting in the OHL this year, you never know.
        Jan. 8 at 10:08 p.m.
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        Edited Jan. 8 at 10:17 p.m.
        Quoting: Klara
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        ummmm, his analytics have suggested he's all flash no substance, which the play on the ice often represents (been much better the past few weeks though), he is extremely athletic and competitive, but is extremely prone to defensive breakdowns. If you have analytics from another source, I'd actually really want to see it (really, I cancelled my subscription to EvolvingHockey a while back).


        Whenever I use analytics to compare players like Ferraro, I find that the "compare players" tool on dobberprospects comes in handy sometimes.

        https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_compare.php

        Basically, just punch in the names of two players and off you go.



        Looking at Ferraro's stats for this season and that of Provorov's, Ferraro is ...



        1. Producing points at about the same pace.

        2. Taking fewer minor penalties.

        3. Hitting more

        4. Blocking more shots

        5. Giving away the puck less

        6. Taking away the puck more.



        It's an imperfect comparison.

        But Ferraro is the Sharks' best LD and is surprisingly underrated by a lot of other people commenting in my thread.

        I especially like his work ethic and I think he's a valuable asset to your team.
        Jan. 8 at 10:16 p.m.
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        Quoting: glarson17
        He has 20 points in 30 games playing in the top 6, he’s getting more than a late 3rd period. I don’t care what they got him for, that has zero impact on what they would get for him now in a trade based on his play. I’d rather sign a guy who actually brings something to a lineup and take a chance on 4th rounder honestly. Sharks got Brandon Coe in the 4th and he’s a top point getting in the OHL this year, you never know.


        Last season, Barabanov had 7 point in 9 games and was also playing top 6 minutes.

        Why would he only sign for a million dollars?



        If you can find a trade for a pending UFA that is as good as Barabanov, I'll edit and give the same return to the trade in my post.

        I'll do that.
        Jan. 8 at 10:20 p.m.
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        Quoting: sensonfire
        Last season, Barabanov had 7 point in 9 games and was also playing top 6 minutes.

        Why would he only sign for a million dollars?



        If you can find a trade for a pending UFA that is as good as Barabanov, I'll edit and add another pick or two to the trade in my post.


        He signed for $1 mil because that’s literally just 9 games. He wasn’t proven to be a top 6 player. So in 39 games he has 27 points with the sharks. That’s a .69 ppg or 57 points in an 82 game season. How in the world is that worth a late 3rd?
        Jan. 8 at 10:25 p.m.
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        Quoting: glarson17
        He signed for $1 mil because that’s literally just 9 games. He wasn’t proven to be a top 6 player. So in 39 games he has 27 points with the sharks. That’s a .69 ppg or 57 points in an 82 game season. How in the world is that worth a late 3rd?


        Do you want me to edit my post and give the Sharks a return to your liking?


        Or not?


        If you do, you'll find me a trade for a pending UFA like Barabanov.


        If you can't, then your whining and complaining amounts to nothing.


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