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Wishful Thinking

Created by: ItsBlowTime
Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 7, 2022
Published: Jan. 8, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. McDonough, Aidan [Reserve List]
  2. Woo, Jett
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
2.
BOS
  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
  2. Poolman, Tucker ($750,000 retained)
3.
VAN
  1. Gillies, Jon
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Halák, Jaroslav
  2. Hamonic, Travis ($1,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,828,159$648,780$1,132,500$2,671,841
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,225,000$1,225,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 5
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$725,000$725,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 1

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Jan. 8, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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1-0 them
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don’t want hamonic
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Jan. 8, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
don’t want hamonic


Yeah, pass from us.
Jan. 8, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.
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While it’s fair value, don’t see the Bruins trading Carlo
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Jan. 8, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.
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The Bruins are screwed without carlo, don't see that deal happening
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Jan. 8, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.
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If the sabres weren't so short on NHL RH Defenseman id say that trade is not too far off. Not sure they're looking to move him.
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Jan. 8, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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Buffalo pass, our RDs depth is terrible and we don't trade Jokiharju for this.
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Jan. 9, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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Quoting: aidpow
If the sabres weren't so short on NHL RH Defenseman id say that trade is not too far off. Not sure they're looking to move him.
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Buffalo pass, our RDs depth is terrible and we don't trade Jokiharju for this.
Please go to https://public.tableau.com/views/SKATR2019-2020/SKATR?:embed=y&:display_count=y&ConfusedhowVizHome=no#3 and compare Cernak to Jokiharju.
Keep in mind Cernak is paired with Tampa's best defensive LHD and Jokiharju is paired with Buffalo's worse defensive LHD.
Buffalo passes as Henri is the only RHD defenseman signed for next year and Laaksonen is the only RHD prospect in the pipeline.
A second and two MEH prospects would not motivate me to trade Jokiharju.
That would be a huge wish to snatch Jokiharju.
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Jan. 9, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
and Jokiharju is paired with Buffalo's worse defensive LHD.


Show me Evolving-Hockey metrics that Jokiharju is paired with the LD's worst defensive. I disagree with this, but I may be wrong because I am talking about an eye test.
Jan. 9, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 9, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
Quoting: Fjordy
Show me Evolving-Hockey metrics that Jokiharju is paired with the LD's worst defensive. I disagree with this, but I may be wrong because I am talking about an eye test.
Hagg, Pysyk, Borgen, Miller, Bryson get far more PK ice time than Dahlin, all of their PK TOI more than double his.
Even Prow in the four games he played got over 50% more PK TOI than Dahlin.
Plus he has the highest OZ% of the six starting defensemen, more 10% higher (59.6% v next d-man Miller at 47.8%) than anyone who is not normally paired with him (Jokiharju).
I stand by my assessment that Dahlin is the Sabres worse defensive defenseman, which is apparently Granato's assessment as well.
Regardless, I was agreeing that this would not be a great trade for Buffalo, yet you seem to want to challenge me rather than agreeing!
Why would you want to do that, when my post was to further your POV?
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Jan. 9, 2022 at 1:39 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Hagg, Pysyk, Borgen, Miller, Bryson get far more PK ice time than Dahlin, all of their PK TOI more than double his.
Even Prow in the four games he played got over 50% more PK TOI than Dahlin.
Plus he has the highest OZ% of the six starting defensemen, more 10% higher (59.6% v next d-man Miller at 47.8%) than anyone who is not normally paired with him (Jokiharju).
I stand by my assessment that Dahlin is the Sabres worse defensive defenseman, which is apparently Granato's assessment as well.
Regardless, I was agreeing that this would not be a great trade for Buffalo, yet you seem to want to challenge me rather than agreeing!
Why would you want to do that, when my post was to further your POV?


PK TOI? But what does this have to do with if he still played a lot of time not at PK, how much should he play per match? His last games were 27-28 minutes per game, he even sometimes gets PK time, but I wasn't talking about that, but about metrics, I'm just interested to look at them, but I don't have access to Evolving-Hockey, maybe you there is? Will Butcher seems to me to be a disaster and worse than Dahlin in defense. When I look at Dahlin - Jokiharju pair, I see that they both make defensive mistakes, and if Dahlin is very helpful in mooving puck, breakouts and creating chances, then what does Jokiharju do? It seems to me that after the injury, Jokiharju does not look very good. Granato made it clear after the last game that Dahlin is our best player and other players should look up to him, and I agree with him.
 
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