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Chychrun

Created by: TheFlamingC
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2022
Published: Jan. 10, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Calgary Flames
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Top 10 protected
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,200,000$0$0$300,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Tkachuk, Matthew
$7,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Mangiapane, Andrew
$2,425,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
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Coleman, Blake
$4,900,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 6
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Dubé, Dillon
$2,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
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Pitlick, Tyler
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
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Richardson, Brad
$800,000
C
UFA - 1
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Ritchie, Brett
$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chychrun, Jakob
$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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Andersson, Rasmus
$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Markström, Jacob
$6,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 5
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Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Tanev, Christopher
$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Vladar, Daniel
$750,000
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RFA - 2
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Zadorov, Nikita
$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Gudbranson, Erik
$1,950,000
RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Ruzicka, Adam
$801,666 ($0)
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Lewis, Trevor
$800,000 ($0)
RW
UFA - 1
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Stone, Michael
$750,000 ($0)
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 10 at 11:26 p.m.
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Add Pelletier or Coronato
Jan. 10 at 11:41 p.m.
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That’s not nearly enough, even without the draft pick protection.
Jan. 11 at 12:28 a.m.
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That’s not nearly enough, even without the draft pick protection.


Really? Kylington has Chychrun level potential and you could make an argument Valimaki does as well. A calendar year ago he was the best Defensemen in the Liiga at 21
Jan. 11 at 12:38 a.m.
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Really? Kylington has Chychrun level potential and you could make an argument Valimaki does as well. A calendar year ago he was the best Defensemen in the Liiga at 21


Surely you jest. Oliver kylington, who is older than chychrun and just became a full time player before turning 25 in a few months….chychrun level potential? Sheesh, the guy just lead the league in goals from a d man with a good two way game. Kylingtons best day doesn’t come close to chychrun worst.
Jan. 11 at 1:17 a.m.
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Surely you jest. Oliver kylington, who is older than chychrun and just became a full time player before turning 25 in a few months….chychrun level potential? Sheesh, the guy just lead the league in goals from a d man with a good two way game. Kylingtons best day doesn’t come close to chychrun worst.


Kylington has established himself as a legitimate top 4 dman in the NHL. He likely wont be as good as Chychrun but he is still a more than capable player and definitely worth a 1st. The above trade for the most part does correspond with the reported ask of a young NHLer, top prospect, and a 1st. Also while being around 3 1sts in value. Maybe replace Valimaki with Zary? Either way I dont see Calgary as a team in on Chychrun but if they were Kylington would have to be a core piece in the return
Jan. 11 at 1:30 a.m.
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Kylington is scoring at a 50 point pace in his first year in a top 4 role and is only 24 years old. He's always had a high ceiling.
Chychrun is a great player but i'd rather keep the assets and see what we have in Kylington.
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Jan. 11 at 9:13 a.m.
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Kylington has established himself as a legitimate top 4 dman in the NHL. He likely wont be as good as Chychrun but he is still a more than capable player and definitely worth a 1st. The above trade for the most part does correspond with the reported ask of a young NHLer, top prospect, and a 1st. Also while being around 3 1sts in value. Maybe replace Valimaki with Zary? Either way I dont see Calgary as a team in on Chychrun but if they were Kylington would have to be a core piece in the return


No, he’s established himself as a guy that has strung 30 good games together.
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Jan. 11 at 9:16 a.m.
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No, he’s established himself as a guy that has strung 30 good games together.


Sure man, im not gonna waste time debating this
Jan. 11 at 9:57 a.m.
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Sure man, im not gonna waste time debating this


You shouldn’t, you’re representing a thoroughly preposterous standpoint.
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Jan. 11 at 9:58 a.m.
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You shouldn’t, you’re representing a thoroughly preposterous standpoint.


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Jan. 11 at 10:34 a.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
No, he’s established himself as a guy that has strung 30 good games together.


Good luck coming on this website and arguing about Kylington, it's like a cult! Over half of his points are secondary assists, he still isn't great defensively but he has eliminated most of the home run errors that were plaguing him. That's what has allowed him to be a serviceable D man with one of the best defensive D men in the league. Eye test and surface level analysis would tell you he's worth a first round pick right now, NHL scouting departments and GM's are significantly smarter on their worse day than everyone combined on this website on our best days, Kylington has turned himself into a serviceable defenseman, that's about it at this point.
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Jan. 11 at 10:45 a.m.
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Good luck coming on this website and arguing about Kylington, it's like a cult! Over half of his points are secondary assists, he still isn't great defensively but he has eliminated most of the home run errors that were plaguing him. That's what has allowed him to be a serviceable D man with one of the best defensive D men in the league. Eye test and surface level analysis would tell you he's worth a first round pick right now, NHL scouting departments and GM's are significantly smarter on their worse day than everyone combined on this website on our best days, Kylington has turned himself into a serviceable defenseman, that's about it at this point.


That was very very well put.

I also particularly enjoy the argument on potential and ceiling, given that kylington is freaking older than chychrun.
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Jan. 11 at 12:23 p.m.
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That was very very well put.

I also particularly enjoy the argument on potential and ceiling, given that kylington is freaking older than chychrun.


At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter, Kylington is a top pairing d-man currently, and trading two 1sts worth of assets on top of him for Chychrun is more than fair.
Jan. 11 at 12:26 p.m.
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At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter, Kylington is a top pairing d-man currently, and trading two 1sts worth of assets on top of him for Chychrun is more than fair.


Hahahahahahhhhhhahaha. The lengths that people will go to on this site. Unbelievable. 18:30 a night and he’s a top pair guy. Precious.
Jan. 11 at 12:50 p.m.
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Hahahahahahhhhhhahaha. The lengths that people will go to on this site. Unbelievable. 18:30 a night and he’s a top pair guy. Precious.


Lmao. The most important stat in the league, minutes played. Not his 48 point pace
Jan. 11 at 12:52 p.m.
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Lmao. The most important stat in the league, minutes played. Not his 48 point pace


When it comes to whether or not a dman is first pair, ya. Minutes played is miles more important than points. Look at Barrie. Led the league in points last year for d men didn’t he? No one in their right mind would say he’s a top pair guy. Bottom pair PP specialist that everyone in edmonton desperately wants to get rid of. Points are a very very poor indicator of a defensemens performance. How much his coach is willing to put him on the ice? Ya, that matters.
 
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