Get Larkin a partner at C

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Created by: RobinBergdahl

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 11, 2022

Published: Jan. 13, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Descriptions for trades and signings

EP40: If he continues to ”struggle” while Vancouver keeps playing like a top team in the WC, could we see them dealing him to load up on futures? I could see Stevie Y kickin tires on him. We (Detroit) have loads of assets and the only true thing we lack on the current squad and in the system is that future 1C. If Larkin cant be that, EP40 would stelast form a great 1/2 punch with him.
Neither of the players or picks going to Vancouver have a high, not average chance of becoming someone on the same level as EP40. But like most trades involving One superstar, the Stars former team most often recives good quantity over small but high quality. I can really see the value being fair here.

Hague: Hague is a Young top4 DFD with room to improve. Vegas has one hell of a hard Offseason coming their way due to their cap situation. An offersheet at the Max AAV for this amount of compensartion (2023 2nd) should make Vegas not match it. I would also asume that Hague accepts it, both due to the money and what lies ahead in the future with this Detroit team.

McNabb: Antother victim of the cap situation in Vegas. He is a hard hitting stay at Home DFD that would form a great pair with Hronek. A 2-3y deal with a AAV around 2-3 years would defo do it. If we land Hague, he could join us together with Hague.

Martin Jones: Shocker. Why would Stevie sign a ”bad” keeper to a 2y deal with a 2M AAV?
We have capspace!
Ned loves to play the majority of games while carrying the team. Jones can derfore be a good backup. The contract wont even hurt If he does not perform.

Staal: Keep him for One more year so that Edvinsson can get a full year in the AHL to continue his development.

Gagner: Veteran depth

Stephens: Young depth

Would need to sign 1-2 more guys that can fill in when injuries start to mount. Maybe Rowney and another UFA.

I would also like to see a AHL team stacked with Young players. We have many prospects that seem to be ready to take the next step and play PRO north american hockey.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Edvinsson, Simon	3	$925,000
Hanas, Cross	3	$925,000
Mastrosimone, Robert	2	$925,000
Niederbach, Theodor	3	$925,000
Grewe, Albin	2	$925,000
Tyutyayev, Kirill	2	$925,000
Söderblom, Elmer	2	$925,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Stephens, Mitchell	2	$850,000
Fulcher, Kaden	2	$850,000
Larsson, Filip	2	$850,000
Hague, Nicolas	5	$4,100,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Gagner, Sam	1	$975,000
Staal, Marc	1	$2,000,000
McNabb, Brayden	2	$3,250,000
Jones, Martin	2	$2,000,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Hague, Nicolas	$4,100,000	2023 2nd round pick

Trades

DET

Pettersson, Elias

VAN

Johansson, Albert
Veleno, Joseph
Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
2023 1st round pick (DET)
2024 1st round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

6th ovr 2018
30th ovr 2018
3rd round steal from 2019
Two 1sts in two deep drafts.
Top 8 protection on the 2023
None on the 2024

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$59,678,889	$0	$3,350,000	$22,821,111

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $2,375,000$2,375,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 2
Suter, Pius $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
	Stephens, Mitchell $850,000$850,000 C UFA - 1	Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Smith, Givani $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $975,000$975,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
McNabb, Brayden $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Hague, Nicolas $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD RFA - 3	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Jones, Martin $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Staal, Marc $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Jan. 13, 2022 at 6:32 a.m.

DDoverChucky

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I like the idea for sure. Logic would say the Wings have to get a strong second center sooner or later. But what do I know, the Blackhawks won 3 Cups with Toews and not much else at center,

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:12 a.m.

Letter_Kenny

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Great way to ruin a rebuild. No thanks.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:22 a.m.

theleano1

PDG over PDO

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Van pass pretty easy Seider is a must coming back in a EP40 trade, Zadina is looking like a bust, Johansson is another 2 way LHD which Van has a surplus of, Veleno is looking okay but won't be anything too special #2 Center on most teams, and two picks in the teens don't make up the difference, no point in trading ep40 when the value is low, lot's of factors into his struggles will rebound into the player he has been in the past, we already starting to see some flashes of it

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:25 a.m.

RobinBergdahl

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Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Great way to ruin a rebuild. No thanks.

Look at this team and the players. Most are still Young. We have some elite players and elite prospects. Getting EP40 would make up for the losses of some current Young players and future picks. But I dont completley dissagre with you. There are many ways you can go to ”finish” a rebuild.

Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Great way to ruin a rebuild. No thanks.

Quoting: Letter_Kenny

Great way to ruin a rebuild. No thanks.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:26 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Detroit is not blowing up the rebuild for 1 player. Hard pass.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:29 a.m.

RobinBergdahl

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Detroit is not blowing up the rebuild for 1 player. Hard pass.

The D core still consists of Seider, Hronek, Lidström, Wallinder, Hague and some other prospects. We have Ned and Cossa in net.
Up front we have Larkin, Vrana, Bert, Raymond, EP40, Fabbri and probably a center from the 2022 draft. Then we have a big supplera of forward prospects in the system. Hanass, Soderblom, Niederbach, Berggren are a few that have a real shot at the NHL. The depth can later be perfected by smaller trades or from UFA.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:32 a.m.

RedWingsfansinc96

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That trade is horrible for Vancouver why would they do that? I wish that's all it took i'd do that in a heart beat

Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:38 a.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: RobinBergdahl

If anything, EP needs to go somewhere the pressure can be taken off of him, not one where he'll be expected to produce on day 1. He just looks off. It just doesn't make sense to be sending away 1st round picks at this stage of the rebuild.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:39 a.m.

theleano1

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Yeah this trade definitely doesn't make sense for either trade

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:48 a.m.

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jet11567

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Quoting: DDoverChucky

I like the idea for sure. Logic would say the Wings have to get a strong second center sooner or later. But what do I know, the Blackhawks won 3 Cups with Toews and not much else at center,

Larkin isn’t Toews tho

Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:53 a.m.

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jet11567

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Detroit should heavily pursue Hertl

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 7:55 a.m.

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Letter_Kenny

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Quoting: jet11567

Detroit should heavily pursue Hertl

I agree. But with Evander Kane off the books San Jose can now afford to re-sign Hertl long term.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 8:28 a.m.

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exo2769

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Stick with the plan. Develop players internally. I feel for Larkin, but that's how it goes sometimes. He'll be the hero if he sticks it out with DET.

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.

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will9739

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Quoting: jet11567

Detroit should heavily pursue Hertl

Or Vincent Trocheck

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Jan. 13, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.

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Letter_Kenny

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Quoting: will9739

Or Vincent Trocheck

Good player but I think 75% of his goals have been scored vs Detroit.

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