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Does Detroit Think They are Good

Created by: Random2152
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 15, 2022
Published: Jan. 15, 2022
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Not sure how much they like their prospects if they are ready to start putting this roster together in a winning fashion. They are also in a great postion where they can take expensive 1 year bets on guys in the hope they still have something.

Also it is the last year of Larkin and Bert on their contracts so if they think they can compete it would be a good time to go for it
Free Agent Signings
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1$874,125
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$10,000,000
1$6,000,000
1$2,250,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. 2022 1st round pick (DET)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
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2022 1st is 10-15 ovr
2023 1st is top-2 protected
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DET
  1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
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2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$63,597,181$0$3,775,000$18,902,819
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
RFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
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UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
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UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD/RD
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$874,125$874,125
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1

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Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:17 a.m.
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This team isn't going to spend any money on free agents until they think they're a playoff team. They're 2 or 3 years away from moving 1sts and multiple assets like this.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
This team isn't going to spend any money on free agents until they think they're a playoff team. They're 2 or 3 years away from moving 1sts and multiple assets like this.


I understand the assets, but 1 year deals like this have no downside. If you miss you sell them for picks, if you get in then mission accomplished.
Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
I understand the assets, but 1 year deals like this have no downside. If you miss you sell them for picks, if you get in then mission accomplished.


No I get it they just won't do it is all. I think its more an organizational decision to not spend the money until they're competitive.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:44 a.m.
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Yzerman has a very methodical plan. This is the exact opposite of his plan. The reason Detroit has taken major strides, is because they've been drafting and developing well and only making trades when they are good opportunities. None of these trades or FA signings make sense.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:46 a.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Yzerman has a very methodical plan. This is the exact opposite of his plan. The reason Detroit has taken major strides, is because they've been drafting and developing well and only making trades when they are good opportunities. None of these trades or FA signings make sense.


Some might say a “Yzerplan”
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 7:57 a.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Yzerman has a very methodical plan. This is the exact opposite of his plan. The reason Detroit has taken major strides, is because they've been drafting and developing well and only making trades when they are good opportunities. None of these trades or FA signings make sense.


He traded for Mcdonaugh
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 8:20 a.m.
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Ottawa says "Thank you, Come again".
Jan. 15, 2022 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He traded for Mcdonaugh


And even though that McDonagh trade was not his best work, it would still be better than anything in this thread for the Detroit Red Wings to make today.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 8:43 a.m.
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Zadina is a PP specialist, and until he figures out 5v5, no one is going to want him
Jan. 15, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He traded for Mcdonaugh


Tampa was trying to win a Cup. Red Wings are light years from being in this position.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
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Quoting: sensibleguy
Zadina is a PP specialist, and until he figures out 5v5, no one is going to want him


He’s shooting an abysmal 5% that gotta improve
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He’s shooting an abysmal 5% that gotta improve


NHL league average is only something like 6 or 7%
Jan. 15, 2022 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He’s shooting an abysmal 5% that gotta improve


It’s every season so far, 50% of his goals are on the PP
Jan. 15, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He traded for Mcdonaugh


Who helped Tampa win back to back, is that not worth it?
Jan. 15, 2022 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Abroot
Who helped Tampa win back to back, is that not worth it?


I’m not saying it wasn’t I’m just saying he’s doesn’t always sit back and chychrun could be a guy he targets
Jan. 15, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.
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NHL league average is only something like 6 or 7%


Yeah but he’s a top 6 pick and not great defensively he needs to score to be useful
Jan. 15, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
I understand the assets, but 1 year deals like this have no downside. If you miss you sell them for picks, if you get in then mission accomplished.


I don't think you can sell a $10M pavelski or $6M Rodrigues anywhere lol. No one wanting to buy those players would have the cap even at 50%.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
NHL league average is only something like 6 or 7%

That includes defensemen which lowers the average.
Quoting: sensibleguy
It’s every season so far, 50% of his goals are on the PP

That’s most forwards though.
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Yeah but he’s a top 6 pick and not great defensively he needs to score to be useful

He’s actually good defensively even had our GM comment on this recently.
Jan. 15, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.
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I don't think you can sell a $10M pavelski or $6M Rodrigues anywhere lol. No one wanting to buy those players would have the cap even at 50%.


The cap is counted daily, so at the deadline (between 2/3rds and 3/4ths of the way through) the cap hit of a 10$ M player half retained is something like 1.25-1.65$ M against the cap
Jan. 15, 2022 at 4:12 p.m.
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That includes defensemen which lowers the average.

That’s most forwards though.

He’s actually good defensively even had our GM comment on this recently.


No, most forwards don't have 50% of their goals on the PP, that's ridiculous. Yes some do, but most don't. Those that do, are also scoring at even strength though, whereas Zadina is not, and he is the only one who has this ratio every single season.

Regardless, it's not a good trade for Ottawa
Jan. 15, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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The cap is counted daily, so at the deadline (between 2/3rds and 3/4ths of the way through) the cap hit of a 10$ M player half retained is something like 1.25-1.65$ M against the cap


Either way Detroit only really has one decent line, one decent pairing of dmen and a good goalie. Some of their depth players are alright but all in all we are a pretty weak team where a couple players won't make the difference yet. Gonna be a couple more bad years until the current picks can develop and hopefully we get some elite talent in the next two drafts.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.
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No, most forwards don't have 50% of their goals on the PP, that's ridiculous. Yes some do, but most don't. Those that do, are also scoring at even strength though, whereas Zadina is not, and he is the only one who has this ratio every single season.

Regardless, it's not a good trade for Ottawa

When we’re talking about a career of 19 goals, sample size matters. Same goes with this year. He’s clearly snake bitten by his SH%. Most forwards have around 1/3 of their goal production on the PP which clearly one good night of Zadina could put him there so again sample size.
Jan. 15, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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Quoting: jet11567
He traded for Mcdonaugh


Miller was also part of that trade and it was made in 2018 and that season TB made it to the conference finals where they lost in game 7. Since TB is looking for their 3 straight cups just 4 years after the Mcdonaugh trade.
Jan. 15, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
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I'm sorry but Detroit is in no position to trade 4 1st rd picks for a single player they don't have enough talent on their roster. Plus Arizona is looking for a 1st, a top prospect and a good young player.

Pavelski isn't signing in Detroit he will be 40 or older by the time the Wings are ready for a deep playoff run. It doesn't make sense for him or the Wings. Pavelski is looking for a cup and would most likely would take less to go to a team that has a legit chance to win a cup like Spezza and Thornton are doing.
Jan. 15, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
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Nope this isn't in the Yzerplan, No need for Brannstrom Zadina is worth more then a smallish Dman. And like the others stated Yzerman wont spend that kind of money. And it's doubtful any of them sign for 1 year deals.
 
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