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picking on Seattle again

Created by: Cliff
Team: 2021-22 Seattle Kraken
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 15, 2022
Published: Jan. 15, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
2.
SEA
  1. Del Zotto, Michael
  2. Gambrell, Dylan
  3. Watson, Austin
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
  5. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
OTT
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Johansson, Marcus
  3. Lauzon, Jérémy
  4. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
  5. 2023 4th round pick (COL)
3.
SEA
  1. Montour, Brandon
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
If the Panther's 2022 first round pick is top ten then the Sabres receive the Panther's 2023 first round pick instead. If this happens then the Kraken will receive the Panther's 2022 first round pick instead of the 2023 first round pick, regardless of the position of the pick.
FLA
  1. Giordano, Mark ($3,250,000 retained)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$67,281,666$0$0$14,218,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,940,000$2,940,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 5
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 15, 2022 at 9:34 p.m.
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Ottawa still says, "Thank you, Come again".
Jan. 15, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
Ottawa still says, "Thank you, Come again".


What is the incentive for Ottawa to make this deal?
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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Getting Lauzon and dumping Del Zotto
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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bruh thats all it takes to move poolman

NOTHING LOL
Jan. 15, 2022 at 10:04 p.m.
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ottawa only accepts if they can immediately find a team to trade jarnkrok and johansson on to for picks
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
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What is the incentive for Ottawa to make this deal?


1. You might as well place Del Zotto, Watson and Gambrell on waivers.

All three of them.


2. Lauzon, Jarnkrok and Johansson are all better and can be flipped for picks.

It would more than make up for the picks we give Seattle in this post.
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Jan. 15, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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SEA
Del Zotto, Michael
Watson, Austin
Gambrell, Dylan
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2022 3rd round pick (VAN)
OTT
Järnkrok, Calle
Johansson, Marcus
Lauzon, Jérémy
2022 4th round pick (CGY)
2023 4th round pick (COL)


This makes zero sense. This isn’t some fantasy bush league where trades are daily. Ottawa keeps their picks
Jan. 16, 2022 at 12:05 a.m.
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Canucks accept without hesitation
Jan. 16, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
1. You might as well place Del Zotto, Watson and Gambrell on waivers.

All three of them.


2. Lauzon, Jarnkrok and Johansson are all better and can be flipped for picks.

It would more than make up for the picks we give Seattle in this post.


The only one I’m interested in is Lauzon, and I’m not putting Watson on waivers. Maybe Lauzon for a 2nd could be a deal?
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Jan. 16, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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ottawa only accepts if they can immediately find a team to trade jarnkrok and johansson on to for picks


Järnkrok is a quality vet the Sens could use though. If they can extend him for a reasonable cap hit. He's very versatile too and responsible all over the ice.

Quoting: sensibleguy
This makes zero sense. This isn’t some fantasy bush league where trades are daily. Ottawa keeps their picks


Järnkrok and Lauzon are valuable, more than the picks difference. Plus, the Sens dump Del Zotto and Watson. Gambrell could be let go, doesn't matter here
Jan. 16, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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Järnkrok is a quality vet the Sens could use though. If they can extend him for a reasonable cap hit. He's very versatile too and responsible all over the ice.


Järnkrok and Lauzon are valuable, more than the picks difference. Plus, the Sens dump Del Zotto and Watson. Gambrell could be let go, doesn't matter here



The Sens don’t want to dump Watson, they like him, and they aren’t paying to move Del Zotto. They aren’t spending picks to acquire expiring contracts, and they aren’t spending picks to acquire players they will need to move again to recoup their picks. They don’t need Lauzon with Sanderson arriving soon. There just isn’t any reason for this trade.

Edit: if they want the players, sign them in the offseason, except Lauzon who isn’t needed.
Jan. 17, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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The Sens don’t want to dump Watson, they like him, and they aren’t paying to move Del Zotto. They aren’t spending picks to acquire expiring contracts, and they aren’t spending picks to acquire players they will need to move again to recoup their picks. They don’t need Lauzon with Sanderson arriving soon. There just isn’t any reason for this trade.

Edit: if they want the players, sign them in the offseason, except Lauzon who isn’t needed.


I admit the use of the word "dump" in this case wasn't very fair. Watson isn't overpaid and is a fine 4th line forward.

That being said, it's pretty significant upgrades here, in terms of value and/or playing ability :


Järnkrok, Calle > Watson, Austin
Lauzon, Jérémy >> Del Zotto, Michael
Johansson, Marcus > Gambrell, Dylan

2022 2nd round pick (TBL) > 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
2022 3rd round pick (VAN) > 2023 4th round pick (COL)


All it costs is downgrading a (very late) 2nd to a 4th and a 3rd to a 4th

Like someone else mentioned, you could also recoup picks for these players at the deadline (you'd obtain more value than these picks downgrades), they are all cheap and not signed into next season. Lauzon is RFA


I would trade Johansson for any pick at the deadline, re-sign Järnkrok 2-3 years to improve my bottom-6 and eventually use Lauzon as an asset in a trade to make an upgrade somewhere

Dorion is not an asset manager though, I am so I have this mentality
 
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