Last thing MTL need is a LHD so no

LHD and Wingers are the least needed pieces for the Habs. And the value is disappointing for the #1 pick.

Heinola is a great peice but he is a LD which we are stacked up on for years and the rest aren't that interesting to give up 1st OVA when Montreal still needs a top 6 center.

Not if Chariot and Kulak walk for nothing. Both are UFA's.

Thats ridiculous considering the pick is likely top 10. Also, we have Romanov, Guhle, Norlinder, Harris and Edmundson in the left side which are all similar or better than Heinola.

We still have Edmundson and Romanov in the top 4 and one of Guhle or Norlinder to fill the 3 hole or we can resign Niku and/or Clague we also have Struble, Harris (if he signs), Xhakaj, Fairbrother, Ouellet and numerous other depth options for the 3 LD.

The value is bad for MTL but



I think Heinola is or is going to be better than all of these guys. That being said seeing how stacked you are it doesn't make sense for Habs to target a LHD.

He was drafted in 2018 and still isnt a full time NHL player despite the lack of depth at D for the jets. Hes not better than any of those guys except Harris and perhaps Norlinder cmon

Habs never do this, they have plenty of LHD and Vesa doesn't move the needle for them to move such a good pick, the other two pieces aren't valuable at all.

I like Heinola and think he'll be great but the Jets need to move him or Morrissey soon, they're stacked with LHD themselves and they need to make room for these guys. I'd love to see some kind of bigger trade that sends one of Morrissey or Heinola to the Islanders for Wahlstrom or Dobson but can't see Lou doing that or Chevy even inquiring.

He was drafted in 2019.

Edmundson is no where near a top pairing or never was, we've already seen what he has in the Tank, which would last decently for while as a bottom pairing guy. No way you say Edmundson is better than Heinola though. That's legitimately ridiculous... Like what?... Heinola is leagues above Norlinder and Edmundson, that's another ridiculous statement.

Guhle is gonna be a superstar defenseman like Heinola, they'll both put up points. But Heinola is NHL ready. Guhle will take another year, and you can't just potentially waste a year.
Also just because Heinola was drafted 20th, don't doubt his skill and skating abilities, he has Top 10 skill from his draft class. And his draft class is good. But Heinola has had major steps in his development and is better than most of the players Drafted ahead of him, he definitely cracks the Top 10 in his Draft Class. Heinola is NHL ready.

Winnipeg doesn't lack D depth. What are you talking about? Heinola is very likely to be better than those players you named except Guhle who is a similar caliber prospect

Actually their LHD depth is quite high with Morrissey, Schmidt, Dillon, Beaulieu, Stanley and Samberg. They just don't want to put Heinola to a role where he is of little use. He needs minutes to develop.

He'd fit to top4 in the weak Habs roster pretty much instantly, or right after they've dealt Chiarot and the likes elsewhere.

Only way there's even a possibility is if it starts with Perfetti. Even then, Montreal has been trying to draft a top 6C forever. No way they don't take Wright.

If they drop to 2 or 3, there's room for discussion, but it still starts with Perfetti.

Habs only do this trade if there is another guaranteed trade that we give 1 or 2 of our LD defenseman in exchange for a young center or a young RD. Even if the habs had strength on the right side instead of the left side, they wouldn't do it. Don't get me wrong heinola is an amazing prospect but vesalainen and nikkanen won't move the needle, you would have to add a 1st to this trade also

Haha yes! Okay at least we're getting the Talks going somewhere... That Top Pick would be worth it for the right price. Because giving up a 1st AND Heinola is already A LOT.
If you're giving a LD, we'll go for Arber Xhehaj who's at a nice size of 6'4, 220 lbs. He's born in Hamilton but part of his family is from Czech Republic, just like Reichel. They could both get close together with having Czech connections. Jets could keep Xhehaj in the system for longer than Heinola, who has been NHL ready for awhile but not much room.
I feel like if MTL needs to trade another LD, that is for a different trade. Plus the price would raise higher, and the Jets don't need it to get higher than it already is.

If you need a C, we could Trade Toninato, Gustafsson, Smith or Nikkanen. I've already had Nikkanen in the Trade... Toninato is a very solid 4th line C and will fill the spot nicely. Jets will probably keep him, with knowing the Jets systems and already playing key depth roles. Smith is 23 yrs old, but still 35pts in 24 games with a 20+/- is impressive in the NCAA. Gus has taken great offensive strides and has always been a solid defense player that's good on the PK. While Gus was on the Moose he lead the Moose to 2nd in PK at 88.8% before being called up.
Both Gus and Smith are NHL ready and 'very valuable' for any team. Gus will be very hard to move the needle if you're trying to add Gus into the Equation. Smith is who you could trade for without much strings attached.

If you need a RD, we could Trade Kovacevic, Gawanke or Lundmark. I'd add Chisholm and Bauer, but Jet's haven't seen enough of Bauer and it's too early to give him up. Chisholm also plays RD as a Lefty, but MTL's got that spot covered with Niku.
Gawanke took a huge step forward with 18pts in 29 with 11+/-, Jets will want to keep Gawanki or look for a more beneficial trade with Gawanke(not have to give up 'too many' valuable pieces.) Lundmark is just starting his first year with the AHL Moose, and will probably continue to grow with the other young prospects going into next year.
Kovacevic is the only one with no strings attached. He is also NHL ready. With 12pts in 29 with a 11+/-, Kovacevic helps shutdown other teams, while contributing offensively and physically. At 24yrs old, he is 6'4 and 208 lbs. He is probably the perfect choice for RD in a trade. Kovacevic is eligible for Arbitration now. Jets wouldn't have much leverage on Kovacevic for much longer, so it would be good to Trade him in a very valuable trade exchange.

These would be my Potential Trade offers with a C or RD or both;
2022 MTL 1st, Arber Xhehaj for 2022 1st, 2023 3rd, Heinola, Nikkanen(C) and Vesalainen. Replacing Nikkanen with Smith would replace the 3rd with a much later pick.
Or
2022 MTL 1st, Arber Xhehaj for 2022 1st, 2023 5th, Heinola, Kovacevic(RD/LD) and Vesalainen.
Or
2022 MTL 1st, Arber Xhehaj for 2022 1st, Heinola, Kovacevic(RD/LD), Nikkanen(C) and Vesalainen.
Or
2022 MTL 1st, Arber Xhehaj for 2022 1st, 2023 4th, Heinola, Kovacevic(RD/LD) and Smith.

Lol. What the hell is this?

Pretty good except Habs need a top 6 potential Center and a Top 4 potential RD. the only Jets player I can think of is perfetti. The Jets have scheifele, Dubois, lowry/copp, gustafsson. Pretty good, I don't think there is a need for perfetti especially if you get Wright or savioe with our top pick. Therfore the trade would be:
1st,Xhehaj, 2nd. In exchange for: heinola, perfetti, 1st. Then in a separate trade I have 2 ideas:

Norlinder,Harris in exchange for nils lundqvist, 3rd.
Or
Norlinder, Harris in exchange for noah dobson.

Yeah that's the problem, Perfetti is the Jets cherished Gem. We were lucky to get a high caliber player like Perfetti at 10th. Guy was ranked around 4-7(rightfully so) throughout his draft year but fell 10th. Perfetti also has played 2 PRO AHL seasons before turning 20, and has taken major strides in his development. He has developed better than most of the players Drafted ahead of him. He showed his skill at the WJC with 6pts in 2 games. And Perfetti also has 41pts in 49 AHL games the past 2 years in the AHL before turning 20.
Heinola also has 27 pts in 43 games as a D in the AHL these past 2 seasons. Last year Heinola also had 14 pts in 19 games in the Liiga.
Asking for Perfetti, Heinola and a 1st is wayy too much. Jets probably wouldn't bother to listen anymore. They would look else where for a potential Top 5 pick or Top 10.

You're already getting your TOP 4 potential D with Heinola.

But I was talking about RD

So if you want perfetti can we switch him for dubois?