Chariot to a different team, Detroit isn’t making the playoffs.

Detroit has no point to do this. Playoff teams in east are already set pretty much. They don’t want a rental

Chiarot starts with a 1st. Both teams decline (as Detroit isn't in the position of trading for rentals)

Montreal accepts the Allen trade.

Beaucage has little to no value so we're pretty much trading Lehkonen + 7th for a 3rd which I don't see Montreal doing.

I think Kulak can get more than that, but regardless we take the highest offer.

Jets decline

It's a small point, but we don't need Brett Kulak because with Mikey Anderson and Tobi Bjornfot pretty well installed on the left, we have guys like Olli Maatta and Craig Wokanin to play on the third pair. We're trying out Jacob Moverare there now.

What about Chiarot to the Kings for Jordan Spence and a 2nd in 2022?

That would be appealing if Chiarot had two or three years of term on his contract, but we're really not into rentals.

Red Wings decline.

how in the world does a prospect who just signed his ELC playing in the AHL and starting to put up some points has little to no value. That is just an asinine comment. He has value. Lekohnen doesn't have high end value, which is the issue here...a 3rd is close to his value as it is. Toss in a mid level prospect in Beaucage, its more than fair

Beaucage is a former 3rd round pick that has 9 points in 27 games. He's 20, but there's nothing there that screams NHL potential. He has little to no value right now. Montreal doesn't have to trade Lehkonen as he's an expiring RFA which means any team has to pay his actual value. You don't trade players like Lehkonen for a 3rd.

He is 1 year away from being an RFA, Lehkonen is a no offense heavy defensive 3rd line fwd. a 3rd no that is not his full value. A 3rd and a prospect yes you are in the ball game for that type of fwd. Unless you are over paying him next year for that, or else he is walking to UFA.

You are acting like a prospect who just started playing pro hockey after a few months is a write off without knowing how his season is going, what rolls he is in, etc. Thats why its an asinine comment, looking up point totals on elite prospects is now how you determine value of a prospect

I never once said he was a write off. I said he didn't have value, which is the truth. Sorry, if you can't accept that. Montreal reject at the end of the day.

saying he has little to no value is writing him off....and to say he doesn't have value is not the truth, yikes are you just blinded by Montreal homerism. Prospects have value, I bet you have argued that someone like Norlinder has value..if you are calling a recently signed 3rd right pick in Beaucage having no value....then you are saying Norlinder has no value.

so which is it...do only montreal prospects have value and unless its a prospect you want, they have no value in the league

Seriously man? haha.. what would his value be then? He's a .33 PPG in the AHL. And you're right, Norlinder really doesn't have that much value.

they have value they arent worthless or "little to no value". That has been my whole point. And once again looking up elite prospect stats isnt how you value a prospect. You can say you dont like the prospect, but to say they have little or no value and not understand the context around them.....that is just a tip for you, dont just assume worth based on box scores

ben chiarot should get nothing more than a first and thats even crazy let alone "start" with a first lol

In a trade they do not have value because teams already have 3 or 4 more of those players. He doesn't have value to other teams. Sorry to inform you man. Grow up

You're right. Based on his stats and play he's pretty bad, but the rumour is a 1st, so that's what we go off/

that is not what you said, you said they have little to no value.
And once again you are making asinine claims.

There has been nothing childish here for you to say "grow up" You made a claim with no merit to it, I questioned it. You just dont like being called out on a mind boggling statement to try to reinforce your dislike of a trade. Thats all you had to say is you dont like the value but to make it seem worse you tried to belittle the prospect bc you dont understand the player.

You saying "yikes are you just blinded by Montreal homerism" and the rest of that comment is why I said grow up... you can't remember what you said 10 minutes ago? It's clear you are trolling at this point. Tell me what Beaucage is worth then if you claim "he has value". Tell me a previous trade where a player like Beaucage got a good pick or player. You just don't like admitting you're wrong, when you clearly are.

you are trying to change the conversation... You claiming a prospect is worthless. But to your counter arguement... Why would a team who just sign a prospect to his ELC trade him a few months later. if they didnt want the player they wouldnt have signed him to the ELC in the first place.

What am I wrong about? I said a recently signed prospect is not worthless , but you said the opposite or your semantics of "little to no value" and you are trying to fight your claim to the death.

saying I cant admit I am wrong when its you who cant admit that your claim was an extreme exaggeration. Irony much.

Why don't you answer my question? What player like Beaucage has been traded for decent picks or prospects in the past 2-3 years? Answer it and I'll say you are right. You can't because they aren't worth a whole lot. I'll give you a player that's right on the top of my head and you can try to counter it. Will Bitten. Your turn. Don't comment if you can't answer my question.

when are prospects traded for a pick right after they signed their ELC, You want an example that doesnt exist or is extremely rare

Will Bitten? How in the world does a 23 year old prospect who played through their full ELC. 3 full seasons in the ahl, and are now on their 2nd contract a comparable to a 20 year prospect that just signed and is in their first year of their ELC playing their first AHL season. That isnt a comparable in the slightest

Will Bitten at 20 Years Old was traded for Gustav Olofsson, a fringe NHL defensemen. That's the comparable. Same age, same round drafted. They were very comparable. Again, you didn't answer my question... Just admit you were wrong and move on. That's part of growing up my friend.

what am I Wrong about...I said they aren't worthless. There is nothing for me to admit. A prospect had value,
You want something that is just not plausible.

And I cant comment on Will Bitten trade bc I dont know the context around why he was traded. I can admit that, you cant admit you dont know a prospect beyond their stats on elite prospects