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Debrincat mock trade

Created by: datmonkey91
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2022
Published: Jan. 20, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Reserve List]
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. Rodrigue, Olivier
  4. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
  • James Neal: $1,916,667
  • Andrej Sekera: $1,500,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
26$81,500,000$88,214,468$669,339$990,000-$6,714,468
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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Kassian, Zack
$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Shore, Devin
$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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Turris, Kyle
$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Yamamoto, Kailer
$1,175,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
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Benson, Tyler
$750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Ryan, Derek
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Sceviour, Colton
$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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DeBrincat, Alex
$6,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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McLeod, Ryan
$834,167
C
RFA - 1
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Perlini, Brendan
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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Keith, Duncan
$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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Ceci, Cody
$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Smith, Mike
$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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Russell, Kris
$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Bouchard, Evan
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2
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Konovalov, Ilya
$842,500
G
UFA - 2
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Koekkoek, Slater
$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
$750,000
G
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Archibald, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Lagesson, William
$725,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 20 at 10:03 p.m.
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Hawks easily pass. DeBrincat is really good. Have to think it starts with Holloway and multiple 1sts. Oils should really focus on getting an actual goaltender and maybe a dman or two
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Jan. 20 at 10:25 p.m.
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Holloway and Bouchard (or Holloway + multiple 1sts) will need to be in any DeBrincat deal.
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Jan. 20 at 11:22 p.m.
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This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.
Jan. 21 at 1:32 a.m.
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Quoting: crankshaft
Hawks easily pass. DeBrincat is really good. Have to think it starts with Holloway and multiple 1sts. Oils should really focus on getting an actual goaltender and maybe a dman or two


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Holloway and Bouchard (or Holloway + multiple 1sts) will need to be in any DeBrincat deal.


Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.


I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.
Jan. 21 at 1:38 a.m.
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I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.


The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.
Jan. 21 at 1:51 a.m.
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The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.


Still not enough reason for a team to give up more for Debrincat than one would for Eichel.
Jan. 21 at 2:37 a.m.
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The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.


And financial flexibility this year + the ability to discuss his next contract under your own terms + not coming off ground breaking neck surgery blah blah blah but what do we know
Jan. 21 at 8:58 a.m.
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Still not enough reason for a team to give up more for Debrincat than one would for Eichel.


Eichel wanted a trade which gave Vegas leverage.
Jan. 21 at 8:30 p.m.
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I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.


Im sorry but I don't see this as remotely close to what Vegas gave up for Eichel who demanded a trade out of Buff and came with a huge cap hit whilst being injured.

I mean you haven't even offered up any of the top prospects in the system, nor have you given up any quality NHL player.

Krebs was their #1 prospect and Tuch was widely considered to have one of the most team friendly deals in the NHL whilst still giving great production.

A comparable Eichel trade from EDM would be

puljujarvi - Re-signed on team friendly deal
Broberg/Hollaway
1st
2nd

And TBH, I would still say no.
Jan. 21 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.


Imagine having to pay three players over 8M

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Jan. 21 at 10:18 p.m.
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Imagine having to pay three players over 8M

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Because Debrincat’s next contract will be over that
Jan. 22 at 6:47 a.m.
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Im sorry but I don't see this as remotely close to what Vegas gave up for Eichel who demanded a trade out of Buff and came with a huge cap hit whilst being injured.

I mean you haven't even offered up any of the top prospects in the system, nor have you given up any quality NHL player.

Krebs was their #1 prospect and Tuch was widely considered to have one of the most team friendly deals in the NHL whilst still giving great production.

A comparable Eichel trade from EDM would be

puljujarvi - Re-signed on team friendly deal
Broberg/Hollaway
1st
2nd

And TBH, I would still say no.


Still the package for Debrincat shouldn't be more than what Vegas gave up for Eichel. It should be very similar and probably just a little bit lower than what Arizona wants for Chychrun (young nhl player + top prospect + 1st). In the deal you get a top prospect in Bourgault and the 1st, Samorukov who has been developed nicely and will likely play in the NHL next year and some smaller pieces. I think the dear is fair in value and I doubt any team wants to give up a big pacakge for one player seeing it took so long for an Eichel trade and also seeing no Chychrun trade yet.
Jan. 22 at 11:07 p.m.
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Still the package for Debrincat shouldn't be more than what Vegas gave up for Eichel. It should be very similar and probably just a little bit lower than what Arizona wants for Chychrun (young nhl player + top prospect + 1st). In the deal you get a top prospect in Bourgault and the 1st, Samorukov who has been developed nicely and will likely play in the NHL next year and some smaller pieces. I think the dear is fair in value and I doubt any team wants to give up a big pacakge for one player seeing it took so long for an Eichel trade and also seeing no Chychrun trade yet.


With all due respect to Bourgault, he's not the oilers top prospect, Not including Bouchard anymore, that moniker would be bestowed upon Holloway or Broberg and Samurokov is an LD with which we have a mountain of guys just like and some even better. The Chychrun deal would be less than what the Cat gets whilst I don't agree that the Cat gets less than Eichel. That could change if he demanded a trade and we lost leverage but as things stand we hold all the cards and all the leverage.
 
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