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Chychrun cost and Deadline

Created by: stephane_robidas
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2022
Published: Jan. 21, 2022
Team: 2021-22 Arizona Coyotes
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Knight, Spencer
  2. Lundell, Anton
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
2.
ARI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Crouse, Lawson
3.
ARI
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
4.
ARI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Lagesson, William
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Larsson, Johan
  2. Vejmelka, Karel
  3. Kessel, Phil ($3,400,000 retained)
5.
ARI
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
6.
ARI
  1. 2024 4th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Roussel, Antoine
7.
ARI
  1. 2023 4th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya
8.
ARI
    A loonie
    DET
    1. Galchenyuk, Alex
    Buyouts
    • Michael Grabner: $1,258,333
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Phil Kessel: $3,400,000 (50%)
    • Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $990,000 (12%)
    • Darcy Kuemper: $1,000,000 (22%)
    • Johan Larsson: $700,000 (50%)
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    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$64,126,118$196,951$3,082,500$17,373,882
    Left WingCenterRight Wing
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    Hayton, Barrett
    $894,167
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Schmaltz, Nick
    $5,850,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 5
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    Keller, Clayton
    $7,150,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
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    Eriksson, Loui
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Lundell, Anton
    $925,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
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    Fischer, Christian
    $1,000,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    Ladd, Andrew
    $5,500,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Nash, Riley
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Jaskin, Dmitrij
    $3,200,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    O'Brien, Liam
    $750,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
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    Boyd, Travis
    $750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    Fasching, Hudson
    $750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Gostisbehere, Shayne
    $4,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    Timmins, Conor
    $850,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
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    Wedgewood, Scott
    $825,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Moser, Janis
    $886,667
    LD
    RFA - 3
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    Strålman, Anton
    $5,500,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Koskinen, Mikko
    $4,500,000
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Capobianco, Kyle
    $775,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    Mayo, Dysin
    $750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Lagesson, William
    $725,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
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    Hutton, Carter
    $750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Beagle, Jay
    $3,000,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Jan. 21 at 6:12 p.m.
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    So what player(s) are TB waiving to get the cap space? They have zero space and no waivers eligible contracts so this isn't happening.
    Jan. 21 at 6:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    So what player(s) are TB waiving to get the cap space? They have zero space and no waivers eligible contracts so this isn't happening.


    Put Kucherov on LTIR
    Jan. 21 at 6:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    So what player(s) are TB waiving to get the cap space? They have zero space and no waivers eligible contracts so this isn't happening.


    That’s what LTIR is for
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    Jan. 21 at 6:21 p.m.
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    If I'm the Panthers, Anton Lundell is near untouchable in any trade. He is in the first year of his ELC and already on a 50-point pace. You're talking about a guy who is making $1M this season when his production would dictate at least $5M once extended, and he is only twenty.
    Jan. 21 at 6:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    That’s what LTIR is for


    So who is going to get hurt. You can't just stick a guy on LTIR because you want to open cap space.
    Jan. 21 at 6:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    So who is going to get hurt. You can't just stick a guy on LTIR because you want to open cap space.


    Tell that to the 2020-21 Lightning.
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    Jan. 21 at 6:24 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Tell that to the 2020-21 Lightning.


    Do Kucherov surgery was fake? TB Delay the surgery to set up the timing yes was he legitimately injured yes . They knew exactly how long the recovery was because Point and Gourde previous 2 years
    Jan. 21 at 6:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Randominoe
    If I'm the Panthers, Anton Lundell is near untouchable in any trade. He is in the first year of his ELC and already on a 50-point pace. You're talking about a guy who is making $1M this season when his production would dictate at least $5M once extended, and he is only twenty.


    I agree. As good as Chychrun is, Florida would be foolish to make this deal. I'm just going off what the reports say.
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    Jan. 21 at 6:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Do Kucherov surgery was fake?


    No one misses the exact amount of time just to be *perfectly ready* for a three point playoff debut. Injury wasn't faked, but they kept him out for the regular season, no doubt.
    Jan. 21 at 6:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Marshallchapman9
    No one misses the exact amount of time just to be *perfectly ready* for a three point playoff debut. Injury wasn't faked, but they kept him out for the regular season, no doubt.[/quote
    Did you not see his return this year 2 assists first night back after missing 26 games and almost 3 months
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    Jan. 21 at 6:41 p.m.
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    Panthers should run the other way as fast as they can from that deal. Chychrun isn’t near that good.
    Jan. 21 at 6:43 p.m.
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    I want Gourde back
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    Huge overpay for Chychrun. They wouldn't give Lundell for him 1 for 1 and I doubt they do Knight and a 1st either
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    Jan. 21 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Marshallchapman9
    No one misses the exact amount of time just to be *perfectly ready* for a three point playoff debut. Injury wasn't faked, but they kept him out for the regular season, no doubt.


    They delayed him having the surgery to set it up that way Gourde 2 years prior Point the previous year both 3 months to skating and 2 months to playing
    Jan. 21 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Oilers accept.
    Jan. 21 at 8:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Do Kucherov surgery was fake? TB Delay the surgery to set up the timing yes was he legitimately injured yes . They knew exactly how long the recovery was because Point and Gourde previous 2 years


    He was skating for two months, fully for last 4 weeks. It is what it is.

    Lou Lamoriello used to pull all sort of shenanigans with cap, we never denied it.

    People will complain about it, but mostly because Lightning won two cups.
    Jan. 21 at 8:20 p.m.
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    Bolts just need to pick one guy and push him down the stairs… instant LTIR
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    Jan. 22 at 4:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: Marshallchapman9
    I agree. As good as Chychrun is, Florida would be foolish to make this deal. I'm just going off what the reports say.


    The reports never said this was the price, though. It's been reported to be a 1st, a good young player, and a great prospect.

    So basically, something like Tippett, 1st and Denisenko/Samoskevich should do the trick
     
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