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Created by: MarcBergevin69
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 23, 2022
Published: Jan. 23, 2022
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We pick up Nemec the best player in the draft in the top 3 and this is our lineup for next season.

Much younger and less sufferable to watch while we tank for Bedard.
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Nemec, Simon
3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. Lehkonen, Artturi
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
2.
ANA
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Rumblings that teams will have interest in Drouin.

The deal is 1 for 1.
3.
MTL
  1. Staal, Marc
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (DET)
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
anywhere
5.
MTL
  1. 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (CGY)
6.
MTL
OTT
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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24$81,500,000$60,499,558$597,561$2,325,000$21,000,442
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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RW, LW
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,037,500$2,037,500
LW
RFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
UFA - 4
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RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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C
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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$917,831$917,831
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Nemec, Simon
$925,000$925,000
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
G
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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I feel like you can get more for Drouin from a team like Nashville — a younger team in contention. Besides, I don’t feel like Anaheim makes that deal.
Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Why would Habs fans like this?

Rangers trade needs to be a 1st, not a 2nd and Habs don't send a pick back.

Don't think Anaheim bites on that trade unless they're certain they're going to the playoffs and even then Drouin is likely getting a pick back not a roster player.

Petry is an off season trade so we can retain money and get a better deal.

Toffoli likely gets a better return, probably on draft day.

Why are we paying someone to take Armia? They'll need contracts and bodies to play moving forward
Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Why would Habs fans like this?

Rangers trade needs to be a 1st, not a 2nd and Habs don't send a pick back.

Don't think Anaheim bites on that trade unless they're certain they're going to the playoffs and even then Drouin is likely getting a pick back not a roster player.

Petry is an off season trade so we can retain money and get a better deal.

Toffoli likely gets a better return, probably on draft day.

Why are we paying someone to take Armia? They'll need contracts and bodies to play moving forward


You're living in the past my friend... Petry and Armia are finished hockey players on bad contracts. We must get them out immediately before they're immovable.

A first and second for Toffoli is peak value.

Goodluck getting a first and kravstov for that package.
Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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If we're buying at the trade deadline, we'll give you a 2023 second for Drouin with 50% retention.
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
If we're buying at the trade deadline, we'll give you a 2023 second for Drouin with 50% retention.


Habs reject
Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
You're living in the past my friend... Petry and Armia are finished hockey players on bad contracts. We must get them out immediately before they're immovable.

A first and second for Toffoli is peak value.

Goodluck getting a first and kravstov for that package.


Wow talk about being mad guys aren't preforming lol

That's not peak value for Toffoli, a first and a good prospect is far more likely and better value.

Chairot = first round pick. Lehkonen = Kratzov. No third rounder needed.
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 12:54 p.m.
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If we draft nemec, please for the love of God, DONT PLAY HIM IN THE LINEUP IN THE FIRST YEAR. the only 2022 draft player I would play next year would be WRIGHT
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
You're living in the past my friend... Petry and Armia are finished hockey players on bad contracts. We must get them out immediately before they're immovable.

A first and second for Toffoli is peak value.

Goodluck getting a first and kravstov for that package.


And you don’t watch games
Petry didn’t decline, is he slower ? No
Does the PP suck because of the coaching staff ? Yes
Is he the same player doing turnovers ? Yes
Petry isn’t perfect, he got a down year but he isn’t washed up
Replace Ducharme & Burrows and MTL would be way better
Jan. 23, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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And you don’t watch games
Petry didn’t decline, is he slower ? No
Does the PP suck because of the coaching staff ? Yes
Is he the same player doing turnovers ? Yes
Petry isn’t perfect, he got a down year but he isn’t washed up
Replace Ducharme & Burrows and MTL would be way better


The PP has scored in 6 straight games though.
Jan. 23, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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And you don’t watch games
Petry didn’t decline, is he slower ? No
Does the PP suck because of the coaching staff ? Yes
Is he the same player doing turnovers ? Yes
Petry isn’t perfect, he got a down year but he isn’t washed up
Replace Ducharme & Burrows and MTL would be way better


Quoting: GMs
And you don’t watch games
Petry didn’t decline, is he slower ? No
Does the PP suck because of the coaching staff ? Yes
Is he the same player doing turnovers ? Yes
Petry isn’t perfect, he got a down year but he isn’t washed up
Replace Ducharme & Burrows and MTL would be way better


How would you like this coaching staff? https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/544703
Jan. 23, 2022 at 1:38 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
If we're buying at the trade deadline, we'll give you a 2023 second for Drouin with 50% retention.


Really?
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
The PP has scored in 6 straight games though.


And how many where good set up goals ?
The Dvorak one against Dallas
The others are just broken play and it ends up in the net
We can barely set up the PP because we can’t get a decent entry zone
Jan. 23, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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Really?


He's only signed for one more season, on a terrible team he's still scoring at the rate of 0.6 PPG, which only 6 of our forwards (including Henrique and The Captain) are doing, and if he's still playing at a reasonable level and not injured at the trade deadline, he might be a good investment. Note that there are two "ifs" there.

I wouldn't trade Comtois for him even if the second involved were Montreal's 2022, which is likely to be #34 or better.
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
And you don’t watch games
Petry didn’t decline, is he slower ? No
Does the PP suck because of the coaching staff ? Yes
Is he the same player doing turnovers ? Yes
Petry isn’t perfect, he got a down year but he isn’t washed up
Replace Ducharme & Burrows and MTL would be way better


I've watched every game since I was old enough to understand the game. Petry has always been terrible on the power play, now his random wrist shots from the point aren't hitting the back of the net. He's a turnover machine at even strength and powerplay. Paying the 34 year old 6.2 million for the next 4 years is going to be a disaster. I wanted him gone at the 2020 deadline when people thought he was good. Now were stuck shipping him off for cheap right now or having to suffer his contract for the rest of this rebuild.
Jan. 23, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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I've watched every game since I was old enough to understand the game. Petry has always been terrible on the power play, now his random wrist shots from the point aren't hitting the back of the net. He's a turnover machine at even strength and powerplay. Paying the 34 year old 6.2 million for the next 4 years is going to be a disaster. I wanted him gone at the 2020 deadline when people thought he was good. Now were stuck shipping him off for cheap right now or having to suffer his contract for the rest of this rebuild.


He is our best dman, you trade him you exposed even more Romanov Chiarot and Edmundson will be exposed
Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:08 p.m.
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He is our best dman, you trade him you exposed even more Romanov Chiarot and Edmundson will be exposed


your "best dman" has 4 points in 33 games as is terrible defensively.
Jan. 23, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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1st trade - Montreal rejects. I feel like they could get Kravtsov for Lehkonen straight up. NYR aren't in a position of power here IMO. Kravtsov has made is publically clear he won't play in NYR (he went back to KHL because he doesn't want to play there). Lehkonen is an RFA so Montreal doesn't have to trade him. I think Montreal would consider Kravtsov + 2nd for Chiarot if that interests you. I think Kravtsov at this point is worth a 2nd IMO, so that would mean 2 2nds for Chiarot which is fair.

2nd Trade - I don't think Anaheim would have interest in this trade, and Montreal would be crazy not to accept it.

3rd Trade - Montreal rejects. Petry is worth more at this point to be a leader than that terrible package. Any trade with Petry starts with a 1st, otherwise we keep him.

4th Trade - I'm not sure why we are dumping Hoffman. He's a player who will thrive in an offensive system (like Hughes wants). It's not his fault he's a pure offensive player playing in a pure defensive system.

5th Trade - Fair value for Toffoli, I don't think Montreal wants to trade him though

6th Trade - At this point, I would probably do this deal, although I don't think Montreal should be dumping salary at this moment.
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Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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Bad deal for Detroit
Jan. 24, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
1st trade - Montreal rejects. I feel like they could get Kravtsov for Lehkonen straight up. NYR aren't in a position of power here IMO. Kravtsov has made is publically clear he won't play in NYR (he went back to KHL because he doesn't want to play there). Lehkonen is an RFA so Montreal doesn't have to trade him. I think Montreal would consider Kravtsov + 2nd for Chiarot if that interests you. I think Kravtsov at this point is worth a 2nd IMO, so that would mean 2 2nds for Chiarot which is fair.

2nd Trade - I don't think Anaheim would have interest in this trade, and Montreal would be crazy not to accept it.

3rd Trade - Montreal rejects. Petry is worth more at this point to be a leader than that terrible package. Any trade with Petry starts with a 1st, otherwise we keep him.

4th Trade - I'm not sure why we are dumping Hoffman. He's a player who will thrive in an offensive system (like Hughes wants). It's not his fault he's a pure offensive player playing in a pure defensive system.

5th Trade - Fair value for Toffoli, I don't think Montreal wants to trade him though

6th Trade - At this point, I would probably do this deal, although I don't think Montreal should be dumping salary at this moment.


Thanks for being rational with your reasonings for each trade. I agree with a lot that you said, however I don't think Petry is a leader for this team. Having veterans who make big money just to show up to the rink everyday and put on terrible performances isn't a good example for young players in the system; Drouin and Hoffman are another in the same boat as Petry. Guys like Suzuki, Gallagher, Anderson are players who make big money and show up to play every night.
 
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