If habs choose to rebuild year 1

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Created by: DucharmetheDOMinator

Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 18, 2022

Published: Jan. 23, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Who would want out in terms of a rebuild? Players 25 and under are not asked. First it is if player would want out. 2nd reason. 3rd verdict
Hoffman: Yes. Signed in MTL to win not to rebuild. Moved
Suzuki: Not asked. Keep
Anderson: No. Loves montreal. Keep
Toffoli: No. Wants to be leader. Trade anyway.
Dvorak: Not asked. Traded eventually
Gallagher. Yes. Wants to win. Traded eventually
Poehling: Not asked. Traded
Caufield: Not asked. Traded eventually
Drouin: Yes. Wants smaller market. Traded
Evans. Not asked. Keep
Lehkonen. No. Can sign UFA soon. Traded
Armia. Yes. Wants contender. Traded eventually
Pitlick: No. Brother got drafted by mtl. Trade eventually
Byron: No. Loves MTL Wants to be leader. Keep
Perrault. Yes. UFA rental. Traded
Chiarot: Yes. UFA rental. Traded
Savard. No. Wants to play in hometown. Keep
Petry. Yes. Wants to contend. traded eventually
Edmundson. No. Wants to mentor young LD. Traded eventually
Kulak. Yes. UFA rental. Trade
Wideman. YES. UFA Rental.trade
Romanov. Not asked. Keep
Clague. Not asked. Keep
Niku. Yes. Lots of LD prospects. Traded eventually
Price. Wants to win. Traded
Allen. No, wants to mentor young goalies. Traded
Montembeault. Yes. Primeau in pipeline. Traded eventually

Trades

MTL

Bokk, Dominik
2022 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Hoffman, Mike

MTL

Boltmann, Jake [Reserve List]
Pelletier, Jakob
2022 1st round pick (CGY)

CGY

Toffoli, Tyler

MTL

Hayton, Barrett

ARI

Poehling, Ryan
2022 3rd round pick (MTL)

MTL

Pärssinen, Juuso
2022 2nd round pick (NSH)

NSH

Drouin, Jonathan

MTL

Kravtsov, Vitali
2023 3rd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

3rd is Conditional. If Kravtsov signs with the habs next year its a 4th

NYR

Lehkonen, Artturi

MTL

2022 5th round pick (BOS)
2022 7th round pick (BOS)

BOS

Perreault, Mathieu

MTL

Chytil, Filip
2022 1st round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

No more room in NY for Chytil

NYR

Chiarot, Ben
2022 4th round pick (TBL)

MTL

2023 4th round pick (NYI)
2023 7th round pick (NYI)

NYI

Kulak, Brett

MTL

2022 5th round pick (LAK)
2024 7th round pick (LAK)

LAK

Wideman, Chris

10.

MTL

Gustafsson, David
2022 3rd round pick (CBJ)
2022 5th round pick (WPG)

WPG

Allen, Jake

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $1,958,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$54,461,225	$597,561	$4,475,000	$27,038,775

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 4	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($537,500$538K) C UFA - 1	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($300,000$300K) LW, RW UFA - 2
Kravtsov, Vitali $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Hayton, Barrett $894,167$894,167 ($2,150,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 6
	Chytil, Filip $2,300,000$2,300,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($637,500$638K) LD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 4	Montembeault, Samuel $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Clague, Kale $761,250$761,250 LD/RD RFA - 1	Niku, Sami $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Pitlick, Rem $917,831$917,831 LW, RW UFA - 1		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 5

Taxi Squad
McNiven, Michael $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Schueneman, Corey $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 1
Vejdemo, Lukas $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW, RW UFA - 1
Paquette, Cédric $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.

BatVader

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Jets decline

These trades are garbage for every team that’s not the Habs.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.

DirtyDangle

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you need to lower expectations for a trade.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:22 p.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Petry is now untradeable. 4 more years of 6+ million for a 34 year old who's clearly hitting the decline. No one has that space to waste.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:23 p.m.

TheFastAndTheFleuryous

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I don’t know Pärssinen, but I like the idea for Nashville. Pretty realistic if Pärssinen is a B-C prospect.

Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

OldNYIfan

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I'll be surprised if a fourth-line forward like Perreault or a bottom-pairing defenseman like Kulak or Wideman gets two draft picks, or even one above a fifth-rounder.

By the way, you can't make a draft pick conditional upon a player's re-signing any more.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.

ggha777

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Whats that Lehk trade? NY does not do that

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:04 p.m.

SquidNasty

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Habs fans are so delusional and it's embarrassing.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:14 p.m.

Dont_Fire_Brad_Trelving

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Peltier wont be traded, hes worth more than toffoli

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

Peltier wont be traded, hes worth more than toffoli

Yeah a point per game AHLer is worth more than a point per game NHLer who is on an amazing contract, you're just being biased and delusional

Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.

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I’m not sure I see Drouin being a fit for Hynes’ system.

Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.

#11

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: villenash

I’m not sure I see Drouin being a fit for Hynes’ system.

OK, but do you like the deal?

Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

#12

villenash

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

OK, but do you like the deal?

Probably fine value, I just think the team needs to change.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

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Dont_Fire_Brad_Trelving

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Yeah a point per game AHLer is worth more than a point per game NHLer who is on an amazing contract, you're just being biased and delusional

He's our best prospect, its his first year in the AHL. Hes got way more potential than him

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

He's our best prospect, its his first year in the AHL. Hes got way more potential than him

No way he does

Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.

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Dont_Fire_Brad_Trelving

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

No way he does

100% Even if Montreal offered this the flames gm will easily reject

Jan. 23, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.

#16

DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Fire_Brad_Treliving

100% Even if Montreal offered this the flames gm will easily reject

Doubt it, but let's agree to disagree, let's see what toffoli gets at the deadline

Jan. 23, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.

#17

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How about Chiarot and Lekhonen for Chytil/Kravtsov and a 2022 first

Jan. 23, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.

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KSIxSKULLS

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I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:14 p.m.

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

Yeah, they are good. Only for the Habs though.

Canes want nothing to do with a one trick pony in Hoffman, especially for that price. While he could help our PP, he would be useless everywhere else on the ice. Toffoli will get a first, but he won’t get a first, top prospect, and another prospect. Calgary easily passes. Yotes aren’t trading Hayton just yet. Drouin won’t fit Nashville’s playing style. Rangers pass on both trades. Wideman and Kulak don’t get that much. At most they only get a 5th each, nothing more, but probably less. Allen likely gets traded, but I don’t think that it would be to Winnipeg. A team like Colorado or Carolina would be more likely to occur than to Winnipeg, albeit Allen might be really good backing up Hellebuyck.

Offer for Allen:
Canes: Allen
Habs: Raanta and 4th round pick

Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:19 p.m.

#20

KSIxSKULLS

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Quoting: evelutions2

I disagree with Hoffman being useless everywhere else, he's definitely not good defensively, but in a system where players can play to their strengths (like Carolina) I think he would strive. It might not make sense to Carolina in particular, but he's a very useful player. You're saying those players won't fit on those particular, teams, but I think the trade values are ideal for those players, just wrong teams.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: Marchy6363

How about Chiarot and Lekhonen for Chytil/Kravtsov and a 2022 first

No, lehky should be traded for kravtsov, and a 3rd/ 4th. Chiarot and a 3rd should be traded for a 1st, and chytil. In theory you could cancel the 3rds, so the trade would be: Chiarot, lehkonen in exchange for kravtsov, chytil, 1st

Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: evelutions2

Hans reject. How about allen for 3rd, ville koivenen. We have no need for raanta you could trade him to another team

Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.

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DucharmetheDOMinator

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

I don't say it often, but all of these trades are good.

You mean the values are about correct, right?

Jan. 23, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.

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KSIxSKULLS

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

You mean the values are about correct, right?

Not to those particular teams, but in terms of value, yes.

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Jan. 23, 2022 at 8:25 p.m.

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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator

Hans reject. How about allen for 3rd, ville koivenen. We have no need for raanta you could trade him to another team

Personally, I would pass on that counteroffer. I have always been high on Koivunen ever since he was drafted, and I really don’t see him being traded. The purpose of the deal I made was essentially a goalie swap. I could see it being a deadline move, and Carolina would have to add the pick, but I can’t imagine that the trade I proposed was that far off in terms of value. Allen has not been that good this year, and Raanta has had his share of struggles as well, but the gap between Raanta and Allen is not that much. Other potential swaps would include Halak, Holtby, and maybe even Lindgren or Husso.

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