Boston declines quickly. Keep your cap dump. And Boston will qualify Debrusk next year if they don’t trade him. It’s only 750k raise. His ceiling is higher than his QO. Be piss poor management not to offer.

Give you Moore and Wagner for Kassian. They come off the books a year earlier. Best i’d do.

Why would you want to trade Puljujarvi for Dach? Not a trade off I'd make.

The Bruins won't want Kassian so that trades a no go.

Even at half retained Price carries a lot of risk and you're giving up some good assets, I'd never do that.

I think Seattle would prefer a pick for Giordano.

Barrie should be worth Miller on his own, no need to add a pick, definitely not a 2nd anyway.

Yeah that might get you Chycrun, personally I think the Oilers would be better off to find a 2nd pair stop gap for this year whos way cheaper to acquire and hope Broberg is a 2nd pair LHD next season, really think Holland should be seeing what it'd take to get Da Haan from the Hawks.

No offence, Debrusk has 13 points in 33 games is playing on the 3rd line despite getting quality PP minutes. Boston has 13M in CAP next season, possible 14 if the CAP goes up by 1M and your going to give Debrusk 4.3M? I get not trading Kassian for him, but no team is offering anything remotely worth taking. At the same time they'll walk away from Debrusk. Boston has a whole 4th line to sign, RFA's as well as a RHD.......They're walking away.

Switch the 2nd to a 1st instead in the hans trade, then add lavoie

All great points. I asked those questions myself, thing is the Oilers are soft, they need some jam and JP is offensive but doesn't have that same jam as Dach does, yes a very risky trade but I like what Dach brings and he can be utilized in other areas.
The other thing I wanted to avoid is building for the future, Oilers should be done building, so trading a prospect like Broberg, the Oilers get an established defender now, not 3 years from now.
I mulled that Gio - Keith trade for a long time, Keith had conditions on coming to Edmonton but I freed up CAP while getting a equal type player, Keith only has a year left so I thought it would work but a pick could have been added for sure.

Nope, That's already a boat load of very good to great prospects for a player with a huge amount of risk. Also, Bourgault is a first round pick.

Realize that buddy

Not at all.

See they offer him the 4.4 for 1 year. He signs he knows he’s stuck there again. He declines it Boston, or anyone, can sign him for whatever. Nobody is giving him an offer sheet Boston won’t match. So he can’t sign an offer sheet or he’s stuck there. But Boston can now trade his rights without the acquiring team needing to worry about the QO. His only other option is declining and going to Europe, not happening.

This is the problem when demand a trade and have no leverage.

As far as roster makeup goes.

Reilly and Forbort are both expendable as well as Zboril and Urho played when put in the lineup. Trade them both for picks there is 6m. Trade Nosek. Another 1.8. Moore and Wagner gone or bought out 2 to 4m.

No worries.

Debrusk is 25 and has averaged 20g per 82games. What’s the going rate for that? Go look around the league. 4.4 look way off? He was averaging 25 per 82 til last year. What happened? Concussion, Covid (3 times) zapped strength/energy. Forced to play offside out of need, sucks there. Depression. Fought with coach. Demoted after Hall trade. Wonder why he slumped? You think that’s who he is or the guy he was before all that?

He’s playing well. Points are not showing it. He’s looking more like the player from the first 3 years, actually better. He;’s playing defense now too.

No, if he’s not moved by the deadline, they QO him in the offseason. Sorry.

ok, buddy. Thanks for the input

You said it all in the 1st paragraph. it all comes down to would you sign DeBrusk at 4.3M? Nobody is trading for that player unless its to unload something useless as well. I just don't see a real solid trade coming back and Boston offering him a one year contract doesn't help the team, they have to much to sign and limited CAP.
I think it comes down to what the Oilers did with AA, that blew up in Holland face. Its a kick in the junk. Its also a CAP world and Boston needs that space.
Debrusk is not a 20G score, He's a 14.6 goal scorer in his career, so round up he's a 15 goal score or a third liner.

Dach has jam? I haven't seen that in the Hawks games I've watched, his point production isn't very good, its no better then Debrusk's and I'd imagine Dach sees more top 6 minutes then Debrusk has this year. I'd keep Puljujarvi myself, can't say I've watched a ton of Dach but it seems like he was rushed and has had some injuries already, I'd just stay with JP.

I sort of see Edmonton in a position where they both need to be improving now and still build for the future due to years of mismanagement and Hollands current fumbles with trades and signings, really think that having Bouchard and Broberg as top 4 dmen on ELCs would be HUGE for Edmonton next year with Nurse's massive extension starting.

Lol he's 10th in PP TOI and gets looks on the 2nd unit. I wouldn't call that quality PP time. Boston has a whole 4th line to sign?

Frederic - signed for next year
Nosek - signed for next year
Foligno - signed for next year

Hey look at that they have a 4th line that's all signed for next year

You must have missed that Play in series with the Oilers then when Chicago eliminated the Oilers. Dach is better that DeBrusk.

Broberg was terrible in his time up with the club this year, at best he's two years away.

Wrong again. You are doing the numbers by season. I am doing it per 82 games. Someone who scores 10 in 40 averages 20 in 82.

16 in 70
27 in 68
19 in 70
11 in 75

73X82/283 = 21.15 per 82.

That’s the way all calculate a per season average is by 82 games

You also did not follow the bouncing ball. Boston gives Debrusk the QO….HE DECLINES…which means any team, Boston or an acquiring team, can sign for league minimum. Obviously that won’t happen but once he declines the QO the 4.4 has been rejected and he can be signed for less. 😉

If Boston was willing to move him for garbage and cap dumps he’d been gone already. They get something they want or they hold him, QO him, and start all over again next year.

I didn't watch that series but lots of guys have good series or look good in small sample sizes, I don't doubt Dach is better then Debrusk but their point totals are very similar, even on a struggling Hawks team you'd expect better from a guy drafted so early.

Debrusk has played mostly 3rd line for Boston this year yeah?

There's that thing called re-signing a player to a multi-year contract to a lower AAV over a one-year qualifying offer. DeBrusk knows he won't get $4.41M if he becomes a UFA. And anyways, that won't be Boston's decision since he will be traded by that time.

Yup he’s been on all 4 lines but mostly 3rd. March and Hall in front of him. Depth chart matters.

Except he hasn't played 82 games so his average isn't over 82. thus, your numbers are off..
So how does that benefit Boston today or tomorrow? That's what I've been getting at, he's walking or Boston isn't qualifying him.

Dach has 14 points and is a RHD centreman who can play the wing, he's versatile and huge, he dominated down low on the Oilers in that series and his projection is very high, as I said, JP brings more offence but Dach brings more to the table in a complete game and is more versatile.
Not a lot of people will like the trade, I get that, but I stand by it. Oilers need a tougher line up.

Replace the second,kesselring and the 4th for a first rounder and Montréal accept

Go to any analytical or statistical site man. They do an 82 game average not a seasonal average. It’d called prorating. A season is 82 games long so they calculate what an 82 game average is for each player for a fair comparison.

So you don’t think a team would have more interest in Debrusk knowing they can sign him for whatever they want to as opposed to potentially having to lock in at 1 for 4.4.? You don’t think Boston themselves would have more interest in signing Debrusk for less. You don’t think a smaller contract makes him more attractive league wide?

Can’t help you if you can’t follow.

Believe what you want. Just understand…you are wrong. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don't think I do that then, MTL is receiving Bourgault, He is the first round pick. Kesselring is a huge RHD defensive D-man and is closing in on the NHL. Had a good first year and had a great post season. This season he's playing regular top 4 minutes and is very good skater for a tree. There is a player there.

will see, if DeBrusk gets traded its going to be underwhelming, ether DeBrusk will walk or the Bruins will.
Book it.

If they wanted garbage he’d been gone already. They have had offers. They made it clear they won’t trade him just accommodate him. They get what they want or they don’t move him. Period. What they want may change over the next month, they did not want picks before, that may change.

I don’t think he will be on the roster to start the season next year. But i thought that last year too. But it will not come from the scenario of not giving him his QO if he’s still with them at that point…unless he pulls a PDL and pouts and tanks. It’s just piss poor asset management. They won’t let him walk away for nothing when there is zero need too.