Forums/Armchair-GM

Lind and Lehk

Created by: STLBlues17
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 22, 2022
Published: Jan. 23, 2022
Team: 2021-22 St. Louis Blues
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi ($1,150,000 retained)
MTL
  1. Dickinson, Tanner
  2. Walman, Jake
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (STL)
2.
STL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus ($2,600,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Kostin, Klim
  2. 2022 1st round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Think the Blues will have up to 2.8 million on deadline cap space if nothing changes between now and then. Could be wrong.
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
Logo of the STL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
2023
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
2024
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
Logo of the STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$79,821,627$306,349$2,550,000$1,678,373
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Logo of the STL
Schenn, Brayden
$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
$7,500,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the STL
Perron, David
$4,000,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Saad, Brandon
$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the STL
Thomas, Robert
$2,800,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the STL
Kyrou, Jordan
$2,800,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the STL
Buchnevich, Pavel
$5,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the STL
Barbashev, Ivan
$2,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the STL
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$0
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Sundqvist, Oskar
$2,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the STL
Bozak, Tyler
$750,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the STL
Krug, Torey
$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the STL
Faulk, Justin
$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the STL
Binnington, Jordan
$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
$2,778
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Parayko, Colton
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Husso, Ville
$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Mikkola, Niko
$787,500
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Perunovich, Scott
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the STL
Bortuzzo, Robert
$1,375,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Scandella, Marco
$3,275,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the STL
Brown, Logan
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the STL
Toropchenko, Alexei
$775,000 ($0)
C, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Neal, James
$750,000 ($0)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Joshua, Dakota
$750,000 ($0)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the STL
Rosén, Calle
$750,000 ($0)
LD
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jan. 23 at 6:17 p.m.
#1
WentWughes
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2016
Posts: 6,988
Likes: 5,801
Frank Seravalli just said on his podcast that teams are going to be paying Montreal for Lehkonen similar to what Tampa paid for Coleman at the TD. I'm not going to agree with it, but he's worth a lot more than this package.
Jan. 23 at 6:17 p.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2018
Posts: 9,240
Likes: 3,316
I would rather keep Lehky
Jan. 23 at 6:18 p.m.
#3
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Frank Seravalli just said on his podcast that teams are going to be paying Montreal for Lehkonen similar to what Tampa paid for Coleman at the TD. I'm not going to agree with it, but he's worth a lot more than this package.


Interesting, then no thanks. Habs nearly traded him to STL for Blais last year
KSIxSKULLS liked this.
Jan. 23 at 6:22 p.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2020
Posts: 864
Likes: 254
Blues have zero need for Lehkonen
KSIxSKULLS liked this.
Jan. 23 at 6:23 p.m.
#5
WentWughes
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2016
Posts: 6,988
Likes: 5,801
Quoting: RClay321
Blues have zero need for Lehkonen


They were interested at last year's TD, so there is interest there, not sure if that need has been filled or not though
Jan. 23 at 6:25 p.m.
#6
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: RClay321
Blues have zero need for Lehkonen


He’s an elite defensive forward and 5v5 defense is by far our biggest (only??) weakness. Huge upgrade on anyone on the fourth line
Jan. 23 at 6:25 p.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2020
Posts: 864
Likes: 254
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
They were interested at last year's TD, so there is interest there, not sure if that need has been filled or not though


they have one of if not the deepest forward groups in the NHL. No need to give up a good prospect + for a 4th liner. I don't remember seeing that the were interested in him last year, even if they were that time has past.
Jan. 23 at 6:27 p.m.
#8
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: RClay321
they have one of if not the deepest forward groups in the NHL. No need to give up a good prospect + for a 4th liner. I don't remember seeing that the were interested in him last year, even if they were that time has past.


Yeah but the majority of our forwards have struggled defensively this year. We don’t have a matchup line at all and Lehkonen could do that.
Jan. 23 at 6:28 p.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2018
Posts: 9,240
Likes: 3,316
I see what Serivalli is saying, defensive players are highly underrated by fans most see them as replacement level players because they rarely produce offensively. However actual hockey knowledgeable people know their value. It's why fans are often surprised when a Blake Coleman returns a 1st + top prospect.
Jan. 23 at 6:28 p.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2020
Posts: 864
Likes: 254
Quoting: STLBlues17
He’s an elite defensive forward and 5v5 defense is by far our biggest (only??) weakness. Huge upgrade on anyone on the fourth line


Elite is a bit of an overstatement. Also, Ducks are pushing for the playoffs so I doubt they trade Lindholm
Hockey247 liked this.
Jan. 23 at 6:30 p.m.
#11
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: Campabee
I see what Serivalli is saying, defensive players are highly underrated by fans most see them as replacement level players because they rarely produce offensively. However actual hockey knowledgeable people know their value. It's why fans are often surprised when a Blake Coleman returns a 1st + top prospect.


I don’t think Lehk is Coleman tier (Coleman had 20 goals that year) but yes still very valuable.
Jan. 23 at 6:32 p.m.
#12
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: RClay321
Elite is a bit of an overstatement. Also, Ducks are pushing for the playoffs so I doubt they trade Lindholm


Elite defensive numbers, fantastic stick, passes my eye test every time. I think Ducks will fall out tbh. .547 points %…somevody will step up and pass that when all the games are played.
Hockey247, ricochetii and Aidian1 liked this.
Jan. 23 at 6:45 p.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2018
Posts: 9,240
Likes: 3,316
Quoting: STLBlues17
I don’t think Lehk is Coleman tier (Coleman had 20 goals that year) but yes still very valuable.


Oh I wasn't saying Lehks was Coleman level but Lehks offense is also underrated. He has the skill to put up 15+ goals, he put up 18 in his rookie year but he is better known for his defense and is still not in the same tier as Coleman so I could see something like 2 2nds or a 1st + 3rd or 4th
STLBlues17 and Hockey247 liked this.
Jan. 23 at 7:08 p.m.
#14
Hockey247
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2017
Posts: 1,378
Likes: 486
i think Lehky gets us a 2nd and a B level prospect. i dont think he's getting the same return that coleman got, but even a 2nd rd pick is a win for the habs
Jan. 23 at 7:11 p.m.
#15
Go Habs Go
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 9,125
Likes: 2,913
Quoting: RClay321
Elite is a bit of an overstatement. Also, Ducks are pushing for the playoffs so I doubt they trade Lindholm


Tsn had an article on him Dec 23rd.

Quote:
Only three skaters (Boston’s Bergeron, Brad Marchand, and David Pastrnak) have better expected goal rates against than Lehkonen, which is a remarkable benchmark considering the talent disparities between the two teams.


I'd say that puts him in elite company.
I'm sure it's gone down some now, as you can only keep your head above water so long when your team is drowning, but Lehkonen has an underrated reputation as a defensive forward. His p/g at 0.4 is a nice bonus in a bottom 6 penalty killer as well.
If not elite, he's at least one of the best options (potentially) available.
Jan. 23 at 7:14 p.m.
#16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2019
Posts: 14,069
Likes: 16,848
Quoting: STLBlues17
Elite defensive numbers, fantastic stick, passes my eye test every time. I think Ducks will fall out tbh. .547 points %…somevody will step up and pass that when all the games are played.


He's also leading all forwards in defensive WAR
Jan. 23 at 10:36 p.m.
#17
Xercuses
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2021
Posts: 6,696
Likes: 1,830
Quoting: RClay321
they have one of if not the deepest forward groups in the NHL. No need to give up a good prospect + for a 4th liner. I don't remember seeing that the were interested in him last year, even if they were that time has past.


Just cause they are deep in scoring doesn’t mean that total team defense is up to par lekkonean isn’t a scoring forward
Jan. 23 at 11:00 p.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2020
Posts: 864
Likes: 254
Quoting: xercuses
Just cause they are deep in scoring doesn’t mean that total team defense is up to par lekkonean isn’t a scoring forward


they are seventh in GA/PG and have the number 4th ranked PK. They team defense is not that bad. No need to give up anything of value for a guy that will never play more than 8 minutes per game for the Blues.
xercuses liked this.
Jan. 23 at 11:03 p.m.
#19
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: RClay321
they are seventh in GA/PG and have the number 4th ranked PK. They team defense is not that bad. No need to give up anything of value for a guy that will never play more than 8 minutes per game for the Blues.


Blues have a great PK and are top-5 in goals saved above expected (mostly from Husso and Chuck which is concerning in itself) but their 5v5 d is still putrid. Lehkonen would bring a ton to this team
Jan. 23 at 11:06 p.m.
#20
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2020
Posts: 864
Likes: 254
Quoting: STLBlues17
Blues have a great PK and are top-5 in goals saved above expected (mostly from Husso and Chuck which is concerning in itself) but their 5v5 d is still putrid. Lehkonen would bring a ton to this team


How, whos minutes are you going to be giving up to let him play. If you want a significant upgrade for defense you do it on LD not a 4th liner than play 7 minutes a game
Chopper02 liked this.
Jan. 23 at 11:11 p.m.
#21
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: RClay321
How, whos minutes are you going to be giving up to let him play. If you want a significant upgrade for defense you do it on LD not a 4th liner than play 7 minutes a game


In place of Kostin, cut Saad or Schenn or minutes, play him when defending a lead. You’re seriously underselling Lehkonen.
Jan. 24 at 6:07 a.m.
#22
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 5,992
Likes: 1,834
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
They were interested at last year's TD, so there is interest there, not sure if that need has been filled or not though


That was last season. Blues arguably have the deepest forward group in the league. No need for him now.
Jan. 24 at 9:30 a.m.
#23
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: Chopper02
That was last season. Blues arguably have the deepest forward group in the league. No need for him now.


Deepest forward group in the league, except every single one besides Buch, ROR, and Perron have been below average defensively. He’s exactly what we need. Well, not exactly, another D who can make a 10 foot pass might be more helpful.
Jan. 24 at 11:05 a.m.
#24
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 5,992
Likes: 1,834
Quoting: STLBlues17
Deepest forward group in the league, except every single one besides Buch, ROR, and Perron have been below average defensively. He’s exactly what we need. Well, not exactly, another D who can make a 10 foot pass might be more helpful.


Defenseman is a must need. Parayko hasn't been good and needs to be better. But the team defense is just fine. No need for Lehkonen. I like him, just no need for him
Jan. 24 at 11:26 a.m.
#25
Thread Starter
Sam
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2018
Posts: 4,503
Likes: 1,869
Quoting: Chopper02
Defenseman is a must need. Parayko hasn't been good and needs to be better. But the team defense is just fine. No need for Lehkonen. I like him, just no need for him


I do think defensive forwards is something we lack and that we haven’t filled the void left by Schwartz and even Steen, but yeah after watching last night we’re gonna need two defenseman. A legit top-4 who can pass and defend, and a serviceable 6-7. Lindholm and Lybushskin??? Scandella is simply not playable, neither is Bortz (although I love him,) and I think Mikkola is a 5/Pk specialist on a champion. Also have to pray Parayko figured it tf out. Dude got walked by Tucker freaking Poolman and iced the puck under no pressure like 5 times yesterday. At least Faulk and Krug are still dominating their matchups.

I would be much more confident in a group of:

Lindholm-55
47-72
77-48
Aidian1 liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Remove Option
Submit Poll