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2021-22 NHL Discussion Thread #12

Feb. 2, 2022 at 1:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
1? The isles have 5 of them



Does Vegas have anyone?

As I thought they got rid of their so called problem guy
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 1:06 a.m.
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Flames have 2! Zadorov and Ritchie make me very mad. Ritchie especially is just useless in any scenario. Zadorov is tolerable when he doesn't have the puck on his stick, he's decent defensively and on the PK but can't make a breakout pass to save his life. The last couple games he's been making some offensive plays though, which is super strange, he actually has a decent shot, but it's still weird to see him try to dangle guys, or drop below the top of the circles lol


I was surprised to see that Zadorov has solid underlying numbers -‘is it the sutter effect?
Feb. 2, 2022 at 1:09 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Does Vegas have anyone?

As I thought they got rid of their so called problem guy


Ben hutton?
Feb. 2, 2022 at 1:32 a.m.
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I was surprised to see that Zadorov has solid underlying numbers -‘is it the sutter effect?

I think he's always been solid defensively (he had an 85% EVD rating in jfresh's model last season on the Hawks, who were notably not good), but I think the Sutter system has definitely improved his PK. I'm not sure what his underlying stats are this year on the PK, but the Flames PK is #5 in the league right now (it would be better if we didn't play the Oilers lol, 4 of the 19 power play goals allowed have been in the 2 games against Edmonton), and Zadorov has looked fine there from the eye test (he's PK2, generally seems fine because all he really has to do is stand in front of the net and shove the screen out of the way). Sutter does really like having a bottom pair that is huge and prevents anyone from ever getting to the inside/front of the net. He can occasionally get turnstiled because he's slow af, and he can't make a breakout pass to save his life, but he does have a decent shot, decent defensive instincts, and of course is big and physical, so Sutter likes him. I wish they'd give Valimaki a shot, because I think having a puck-mover on the 3rd pair would benefit the team as a whole (the Zadorov-Gudbranson pair somehow owns a 58.9% xG%, although their actual goals percentage is only 43.3%, but neither of those guys can move the puck up the ice), and Hanifin is more than capable of taking his spot on the PK with Andersson, but it doesn't look like Sutter even wants to try that, which kinda sucks.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 3:00 a.m.
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Ben hutton?


Haven't heard anything bad from Vegas fans about him. In fact every time I saw him he was making a smart play or doing what he was supposed to
Feb. 2, 2022 at 5:57 a.m.
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No offence to all the awesome Havs fans here, but I genuinely hope that all the fan’s expectations get absolutely destroyed.

Almost every player from that team is apparently worth a first+ since bias TSN reporter said so.

So if what they’re saying is true then Blake Comeau is worth McDavid+ because bias Rick Bowness said he puts more effort than everyone there is in the league.

Logic is really thrown out the window.


I’d say it’s more that there’s so many idiots part of Montreal media which is also why Montreal is an extremely hard market. However, Chiarot fetching a 1st is definitely possible, same for Lehkonen ( Barclay Goodrow type deal ) though someone like Petry, while not a cap dump, will not have too much value
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 6:14 a.m.
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Rick DiPietro and Ilya Kovalchuk lol

For real though, Ovechkin had a ~9.54mil cap hit for 13 years (2008-2021), and is in year 1 of 5 of a 9.5mil AAV, so basically the same thing.

Lol I told you, NEVER bench Pastrnak, fantasy 101 is never bench your best players, even when they're playing terribly (especially because Pasta's not even been playing terribly lol).

Dzingel isn't even a centre lmfao, how in the world did THIS team break Colorado's home winning streak, like come on, hockey's such a stupid game to try and predict.

There's no way there's actually a guy who played NHL games named Pilon bruh tears of joy tears of joy


One shot one goal. He plays for the bears.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 6:58 a.m.
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The underdogs. Is that team actually that bad though.



Yes. Demonstrably.
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 7:07 a.m.
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New thread?
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 7:29 a.m.
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New thread?


https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/550102
Feb. 2, 2022 at 7:35 a.m.
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I’d say it’s more that there’s so many idiots part of Montreal media which is also why Montreal is an extremely hard market. However, Chiarot fetching a 1st is definitely possible, same for Lehkonen ( Barclay Goodrow type deal ) though someone like Petry, while not a cap dump, will not have too much value


It’s the same with Toronto and SN. Play what the fans wanna hear to get viewers which is their players are worth the moon and stars
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 7:41 a.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
No offence to all the awesome Havs fans here, but I genuinely hope that all the fan’s expectations get absolutely destroyed.

Almost every player from that team is apparently worth a first+ since bias TSN reporter said so.

So if what they’re saying is true then Blake Comeau is worth McDavid+ because bias Rick Bowness said he puts more effort than everyone there is in the league.

Logic is really thrown out the window.


It's not our expectations. It's what we've been told.

Lehkonen = IMO A 2nd at best, but Friedman & Seravalli both said there was A LOT of demand for him so you have to expect a bidding war. A 1st isn't out of question especially considering his defensive metrics

Chiarot = Habs are asking for a 1st + and there seems to be teams interested so I don't think this should be any surprise

Toffoli = Habs don't have to trade him and teams are calling so obviously you're going to want an overpay

Petry = He's **** this year, but again, the reporters are saying teams know his situation and will still pay for a potential Norris contender.

It's not Habs fans, its reporters + analysts telling us this
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:07 a.m.
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https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/550102
Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:19 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
It’s the same with Toronto and SN. Play what the fans wanna hear to get viewers which is their players are worth the moon and stars


Ha! OMG I'm so dumb. I was trying like hell to figure out what city or area of Canada you were referencing with the "SN" (Saskatchewan???) - only took me like 3 minutes to realize you meant Sportsnet. tears of joy
Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.
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Haven't heard anything bad from Vegas fans about him. In fact every time I saw him he was making a smart play or doing what he was supposed to


That's because real Vegas fans don't exist. They're pretty much all bandwagoners.

I haven't seen any more Vegas fans on here than Coyotes fans.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.
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That's because real Vegas fans don't exist. They're pretty much all bandwagoners.

I haven't seen any more Vegas fans on here than Coyotes fans.

Does Florida have fans now
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:39 a.m.
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Does Florida have fans now


You see a small handful of them on this site.

@ViJayPatel11 is the best one on here.

There are some others, it is a small fanbase but it is definitely not the smallest fanbase.
Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:56 a.m.
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Ha! OMG I'm so dumb. I was trying like hell to figure out what city or area of Canada you were referencing with the "SN" (Saskatchewan???) - only took me like 3 minutes to realize you meant Sportsnet. tears of joy


I mean people literally call TSN Toronto Sports Network. They aren't bias for the Habs
Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
That's because real Vegas fans don't exist. They're pretty much all bandwagoners.

I haven't seen any more Vegas fans on here than Coyotes fans.


Yep. We'll see what Vegas is made of when the team goes into a rebuild. That's usually when you find out how strong the fanbase actually is
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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Does Florida have fans now


Nope. They have bandwagoners. You can't tell the difference until they're **** (you get to see who actually like them for them)
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 8:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
You see a small handful of them on this site.

ViJayPatel11 is the best one on here.

There are some others, it is a small fanbase but it is definitely not the smallest fanbase.

All teams have fans, some are just more prominent but teams like Florida or AZ, when the team does good, they have jam-packed arenas, when they suck, attendance dips, that probably applies to most teams too
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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Ha! OMG I'm so dumb. I was trying like hell to figure out what city or area of Canada you were referencing with the "SN" (Saskatchewan???) - only took me like 3 minutes to realize you meant Sportsnet. tears of joy


Haha yeah im just east of Toronto, so we're inundated with leafs news/rumors
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.
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thread 13 prolly needed soon
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Feb. 2, 2022 at 9:42 a.m.
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thread 13 prolly needed soon


We have one
Feb. 2, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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We have one


missed that lol my bad
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