VAN decline. Add Amirov instead of Der-Arguchintsev. That should get JR interest.

I don't know now you can say the Leafs would be set for two playoff runs. The defence is weakened considerably by trading two NHL Dmen for one. A massive overpay for questionable marginal improvement.

Ok move kerfoot instead of holl. Not sure how it’s weakened considerably by adding severson?

Because, as I have been told by countless leaf fans, Holl > Severson

The D is not weakened. Severson is an upgrade on Holl, and Dermott is probably 7th man at this point anyway. Still a large price to pay.

as for JT Miller, with retention, that package likely isn't enough.

Not at all what I think lol

That package you proposed would roughly translate to three 1st round picks and two 2nd rounders in value.
Are you nuts?
Like I know this happens for every Leafs trade on here where our assets are undervalued by the community (who then freak out when Dubas gets proper value) but this is another level.



No, you haven't. This is a more than generous offer for him and likely more than you'd get irl

Ya I can Deff see that. It’s probably more likely they can only swing for one big target before the deadline and it should be on defence then. Miller is just so enticing tho. I’m sure there will be bidding war if he’s available

lying for attention once again

Lol, leafbot. Listen to this guy:



Oh, wait….

Sweet Jeebus.

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Huge overpayments

You're not sure? With half a season to go and hopefully a long playoff run, trading two NHL Dmen for one weakens the team. There are going to be injuries so who's up next Biega?
Last playoff Kerfoot was the Leafs second best forward. He's been solid this year. Actually his point total isn't that much less than Giroux.
Teams are based on based on their best line but strength in the lineup throughout. I don't see how this helps the Leafs now,and certainly it's an overpay and weakens the future.

?????. Why do folks base a lineup on the top six? Half and season to and maybe 24 playoff games... You think Dermot (or whoever) is the 7th Dman? He's gonna play. Think Severson/Biega is better than Holl/Dermot. Gee even now the Leafs have two Dmen injured, so looks the 7th and 8th Dman.
Too many Leafs fans on CF just look at the bare minimum of players and think paying premium for minor tweeks is the solution. Hasn't worked in the past, won't work now.

Severson is an upgrade over Holl. However, losing Dermott and Holl and adding Severson means one injury leaves us with Biega as the next guy. That's a terrible idea.

I get your point about not having much defence depth left. Move kerfoot instead of holl. Then it’s severson over dermott. Major upgrade.
I get kerfoot has had a good season and a great playoff last year but if you could get JT Miller at half retained he’s a major upgrade and cheaper for this season and next.

Of course it’s a valid argument this weakens the future, that’s why it be a huge all in play but I honestly can not understand how adding Severson and Miller to this team at a cheap cap hit for this season and next, while only subtracting dermott and kerfoot from the current roster weakens this team.

If it’s an overpay well then hopefully they could pull it off for less.

How is this lineup based on the top 6? It has the big 4 plus kerfoot, Miller. Burning, kase, kampf have proven they are top 9 guys. Mik is on the 4th line here so even if kerfoot is moved and holl is kept you still have depth everywhere.
Literally trying to win a cup this season or next so being the best they can be for that time period is all that matters in my opinion.

I was talking about the defence. Though you have traded for the superior Severson, you've traded two NHL Dmen to get him. That leaves the Leafs will just six NHL Dmen. That doesn't work for the next 60 games this season and playoffs. Heck even now the Leafs are going to be using their 7th and 8th Dmen.
You've taken away more on defence than added......
And why would the Leafs want to move Kerfoot? He's been very good this season, and last playoff he was the Leafs second best forward.
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