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Leafs in on Manson

Created by: jchafe77
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2022
Published: Feb. 1, 2022
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1.
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh ($2,050,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Hollowell, Mac
  3. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Hinostroza, Vinnie ($300,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Ritchie, Nick
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
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2022
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2023
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2024
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22$81,500,000$79,033,116$0$400,000$2,466,884
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
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UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$0$0
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
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UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$796,667$796,667 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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$805,833$805,833 ($0$0$0$0)
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UFA - 1

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Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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How about Niemelä instead of Hallowell?
Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
How about Niemelä instead of Hallowell?


No thanks, a deal with ANA likely doesn't get done.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Ritzy
No thanks, a deal with ANA likely doesn't get done.


Alrighty then

High on him?
Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Alrighty then

High on him?


Niemela is a top prospect for us here. From what insiders have said, Manson isn't going for a "kings ransom" like Chychrun, Klingberg, Petry, etc, would be. Having Dermott adds to your 3rd pair, and a guy who can play now. Hollowell is making progress and his ceiling is a top 4 defender. Package thoe guys with this year 1st, that's a pretty generous offer. Or if you don't want Hollowell, we got a lot of B level prospects in Abramov, SDA, Holmberg, etc.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
Niemela is a top prospect for us here. From what insiders have said, Manson isn't going for a "kings ransom" like Chychrun, Klingberg, Petry, etc, would be. Having Dermott adds to your 3rd pair, and a guy who can play now. Hollowell is making progress and his ceiling is a top 4 defender. Package thoe guys with this year 1st, that's a pretty generous offer. Or if you don't want Hollowell, we got a lot of B level prospects in Abramov, SDA, Holmberg, etc.


Lol Petry but that’s fair

Also guessing just the 1st and Niemelä for Manson is a no?
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Alrighty then

High on him?


Undersized 19 y/o RD puttin' up pointzzzzz on the bigger ice surface in Liiga. Certainly a fun potential piece for the Leafs, but gotta imagine it's boom or bust when he hits North America.

I'm not against the original offer. Mac may never be a full time NHLer, but getting that 1st is the most important thing right now, IMO.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
Niemela is a top prospect for us here. From what insiders have said, Manson isn't going for a "kings ransom" like Chychrun, Klingberg, Petry, etc, would be. Having Dermott adds to your 3rd pair, and a guy who can play now. Hollowell is making progress and his ceiling is a top 4 defender. Package thoe guys with this year 1st, that's a pretty generous offer. Or if you don't want Hollowell, we got a lot of B level prospects in Abramov, SDA, Holmberg, etc.


@jchafe, unrelated question, but are you a Newfie? My brother in law is the assistant coach of the Growlers tears of joy
Feb. 1, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Undersized 19 y/o RD puttin' up pointzzzzz on the bigger ice surface in Liiga. Certainly a fun potential piece for the Leafs, but gotta imagine it's boom or bust when he hits North America.

I'm not against the original offer. Mac may never be a full time NHLer, but getting that 1st is the most important thing right now, IMO.


Yeah I was kinda thinking like Manson goes for a 1st and Niemelä then we flip both of those while adding like a 3rd and try and get Boeser
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Yeah I was kinda thinking like Manson goes for a 1st and Niemelä then we flip both of those while adding like a 3rd and try and get Boeser


Think we'd be fortunate to get the 1st, TBH. Leafs fans are super hyped about Niemela (For good reason...).

I'm going to keep banging my Forsberg drum though.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Think we'd be fortunate to get the 1st, TBH. Leafs fans are super hyped about Niemela (For good reason...).

I'm going to keep banging my Forsberg drum though.


I think it could lead to a little bit of a sticky situation tough once it’s time for Z Terry Drysdale Comtois (when his is back to last season form) maybe Perrault and McTavish as well

Forsberg would like 9ish a year, no?
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Sabres can trad Hinostroza for a 3rd to any playoff team, without taking on a player like Ritchie who no team wants.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Undersized 19 y/o RD puttin' up pointzzzzz on the bigger ice surface in Liiga. Certainly a fun potential piece for the Leafs, but gotta imagine it's boom or bust when he hits North America.

I'm not against the original offer. Mac may never be a full time NHLer, but getting that 1st is the most important thing right now, IMO.


reason that im so high on niemela is that last year he wasn't putting up points like this, had to be very responsible defensively as an 18 year old in a mens league. This year, very responsible defensively AND is racking up points. So he's not a pure offensive prospect which is why he doesn't seem as boom or bust to me. That said he's boom or bust as in like top pairing vs bottom pairing D, but I do think he's an NHLer one way or another in his career
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
I think it could lead to a little bit of a sticky situation tough once it’s time for Z Terry Drysdale Comtois (when his is back to last season form) maybe Perrault and McTavish as well

Forsberg would like 9ish a year, no?


Hard to say. Realistically the only 2 contracts that could potentially affect those guys at this point would be the last year of Silf/Rico, and I wouldn't be super worried about them. Comer will need to do a lot to get a big raise at this point. Worst case, start putting feelers out on potential extensions for the other 3 and see where you're at. I don't think you're getting Boeser long-term for much less than Forsberg though, to be honest.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:24 p.m.
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Quoting: leafs101
reason that im so high on niemela is that last year he wasn't putting up points like this, had to be very responsible defensively as an 18 year old in a mens league. This year, very responsible defensively AND is racking up points. So he's not a pure offensive prospect which is why he doesn't seem as boom or bust to me. That said he's boom or bust as in like top pairing vs bottom pairing D, but I do think he's an NHLer one way or another in his career


I don't know. I guess I'm looking at it as a "There's a pretty big difference between undersized on an olympic sized ice surface and an NHL one". Again, no critique on Niemela, and he could come in and be excellent, but I'd like to see him play in NA.

Regardless, I absolutely wouldn't expect him in a Manson trade.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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Hard to say. Realistically the only 2 contracts that could potentially affect those guys at this point would be the last year of Silf/Rico, and I wouldn't be super worried about them. Comer will need to do a lot to get a big raise at this point. Worst case, start putting feelers out on potential extensions for the other 3 and see where you're at. I don't think you're getting Boeser long-term for much less than Forsberg though, to be honest.


I suppose that would be fair. My target for Boeser would be like 6 or 7 x $6,850,000

Fingers crossed we will have team friendly deals like what Boston has been able to do mostly with their top dogs
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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I don't know. I guess I'm looking at it as a "There's a pretty big difference between undersized on an olympic sized ice surface and an NHL one". Again, no critique on Niemela, and he could come in and be excellent, but I'd like to see him play in NA.

Regardless, I absolutely wouldn't expect him in a Manson trade.


I've made the half-serious offer of Niemela and a second for Manson @1/2 to knowledgeable Toronto fans (@Saskleaf @LeafsFanForSomeReason GenXHockey) and gotten whole laughs for it.
Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.
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I've made the half-serious offer of Niemela and a second for Manson 1/2 to knowledgeable Toronto fans (Saskleaf LeafsFanForSomeReason GenXHockey) and gotten whole laughs for it.


100%. He's definitely this great "Unknown" hype machine right now. Reminds me of Nils Lundkvist coming in. Lots of fun highlights.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:43 p.m.
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100%. He's definitely this great "Unknown" hype machine right now. Reminds me of Nils Lundkvist coming in. Lots of fun highlights.


My problem is personal bias. I had Niemela on my mock draft where Sam Colangelo went.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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No thanks, a deal with ANA likely doesn't get done.


Leafs maybe consder Niemela if they have a window before the trade to negotiate an extension with Manson on an AAV that doesn't further hinder this team in the offseason.

If they Leafs can extend Manson, they might consider the counter offer, but even then it seems unlikely that deal gets made.
Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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I've made the half-serious offer of Niemela and a second for Manson 1/2 to knowledgeable Toronto fans (Saskleaf LeafsFanForSomeReason GenXHockey) and gotten whole laughs for it.


I’m glad I classify as one of the sane leafs fans awesome face
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.
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I’m glad I classify as one of the sane leafs fans awesome face


tears of joy To be determined tears of joy
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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My problem is personal bias. I had Niemela on my mock draft where Sam Colangelo went.


Yeah, I feel like prospects are just a ton of fun, even though the majority never pan out (LOOKIN' AT YOU, BRACCO!).

Side note: This is not me comparing Topi and BraccotheGoat.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.
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I’m glad I classify as one of the sane leafs fans awesome face


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tears of joy To be determined tears of joy


"Sane"?!?!? How about "expert"?
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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Yeah, I feel like prospects are just a ton of fun, even though the majority never pan out (LOOKIN' AT YOU, BRACCO!).

Side note: This is not me comparing Topi and BraccotheGoat.


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"Sane"?!?!? How about "expert"?


Thanks! For the record, you guys are two of the best ducks fans on here.
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Feb. 1, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Thanks! For the record, you guys are two of the best ducks fans on here.


"And that day, the Ducks Grinch's small heart grew three sizes"
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