I could see a scenario where the sabres take Petry but not if Tuch is involved. He's one of the few guys who loves being a sabre there's no way they're getting rid of him.

So the Habs get the better player and the higher pick? Why do the Sabres even consider?

I'm pretty sure Tuch is a guy who loves hockey first and his ego takes a back seat - so he'll bleed for any team that takes him. I know it would hurt to trade Tuch like it hurt us to trade Petry... but the poor guys' family moved out of Canada...

Petry is good value once he will be in a ''good place''. He would be a great RHD to mentor your young LHD like Dahlin and Power.

You are in bad faith if a 4 times in a row 40+ pts RHD with term is not a great player with tons of value.

He had two 40pts seasons in shorten seasons as well.

Petry is a Top 3 D on any team and the fact that he is having an terrible season on a terrible team with no goaltenders, bottom six guys on his pair and absolutely NO system... doesn't reduce his value. PLUS : if wife and kid left MTL for Michigan because of the Covid restriction - its hard on a man behing far from his family.

Chychrun is having a terrible year too? Is he worth nothing? I though so.

BTW - its litterally 4 place in the draft, chill

Few things I see - Tuch is 9 years younger than Petry, has a lower AAV, and perhaps most crucially for a team that comes off as having less $ to spend - Petry's salary is actually higher than his cap hit in the middle of his deal (2 seasons of $7.5M actual salary vs. $6.25M hit). You also have to consider that Buffalo trading Tuch would be a big PR blow - they made a big deal about acquiring him in the Eichel trade as a local boy, and players will definitely notice if they turn around and trade him only a few months later.

If having veteran D to help mentor their younger guys is that important to the Sabres, there's plenty of UFA guys this summer that they can make that pitch to - Marc Staal, Anton Stralman, Keith Yandle, Alex Goligoski, and Mark Giordano are just the tip of the iceberg of veteran UFA defensemen available this summer.

Not saying he has negative value. But Tuch's better and he's younger, on a better contract and has been better recently. Chychrun's year isn't as terrible as Petry's.

I can read, you know. But it's a higher pick nevertheless.

The PR bit does have an impact I agree, but I believe in term of impact- Petry will benefit vastly more than Staal Stralman, Yandle... Although I don't see BUF as a sunny destination for UFA in the latter stage of their carreer. So trading a guy with 3 years at 6.5M - when guys of his skill are getting absurdly more per year nowadays...

But yeah - I want Tuch for the same reasons you want to keep him - so I appreciate your constructive criticism

LMAO what? Buffalo easy pass

Are we talking about the same 20 goal scorer? I understand their are some intangible and some PR involved that would make this trade unlikely - but easy pass seem more of an emotional response than a logical one

Tuch younger by almost 10 years, he plays PPG pace in Buffalo with a bigger role than in Vegas, he's a local man and a Buffalo fan, maybe he's a future captain. Buffalo has no rational reason to trade Tuch, unless it's a huge overpayment. Petry is 34 years old, having a bad season, his value doesn't seem to be that high. Buffalo easy pass.

It feels silly to say anyone currently under contract in buffalo is untouchable but Tuch is as close as it gets. The fans LOVE him and the team has been marketing him heavily. This ownership group needs as much good press as they can get after the Eichel saga.

I agree with your assessment of Petry. Our RHD pipeline is not good and Petry would be a great transitional piece for this team...just not at that price tag.

Fair enough

Tuch is playing at a ppg pace so far this season.