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Keeping 1st Rounder

Created by: noobmaster69
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2022
Published: Feb. 4, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. 2022 6th round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Strome, Dylan ($1,500,000 retained)
CHI
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Dzingel, Ryan ($550,000 retained)
ARI
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,844,783$0$0$1,655,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,645,000$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$0$0
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$550,000$550,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Taxi Squad
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$1,250,000$1,250,000 ($125,000$125K$125,000$125K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 4, 2022 at 1:52 p.m.
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You're over the cap. The taxi squad is gone after break.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 1:53 p.m.
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easy no from mtl. he's an undersized winger. we have enough of them. add a 1st and maybe habs think of it.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.
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Cant decided what's worse, paying 100x more than chariot is worth or having him on the top pairing.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 1:59 p.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Cant decided what's worse, paying 100x more than chariot is worth or having him on the top pairing.


At least he can bring his team to the 2nd round.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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At least he can bring his team to the 2nd round.


Oh? Is 955 sv% price and Danault coming with him?
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockey247
easy no from mtl. he's an undersized winger. we have enough of them. add a 1st and maybe habs think of it.


Add suzuki and the habs 1st and maybe the leafs think about it
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: gary_bettman
You're over the cap. The taxi squad is gone after break.


The Leafs accrued cap space so the 100k over is negligible
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.
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hilarious two sides of the spectrum - Mtl says no way and Leafs say no to much. I must be spot on with the value
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Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: noobmaster69
hilarious two sides of the spectrum - Mtl says no way and Leafs say no to much. I must be spot on with the value


No, chariot is just really really bad at hockey and habs fans are convinced he's worth a lot because Friedman speculated he'd get a 1st like 3 months ago
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No, chariot is just really really bad at hockey and habs fans are convinced he's worth a lot because Friedman speculated he'd get a 1st like 3 months ago


Are you going by the JFresh card - do you remember Willy not going into the corner all series against him because he was scared. More to hockey than a JFresh card.
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Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
At least he can bring his team to the 2nd round.


I love how Hab fans give Chiarot all the credit for last year's playoff run. Literally all the credit for it. It wasn't Price bailing out the team, or Weber's play, or Danault. It was all Chiarot! Coincidentally, Hab fans also want a major return for him. Definitely not transparent used car salesmanship here at all.

Slaps Chiarot's hood, "he only had one owner....James Bond!"
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: noobmaster69
hilarious two sides of the spectrum - Mtl says no way and Leafs say no to much. I must be spot on with the value


Nah, all you have to do is watch Chiarot and also check our his advance stats. The eye test and the stats show he's been utterly horrible this year. He's talked up like he's a major deal and gets credit for last year's run but doesn't deserve any of the praise. It's not a fair trade, it's delusional nonsense.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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Are you going by the JFresh card - do you remember Willy not going into the corner all series against him because he was scared. More to hockey than a JFresh card.


Im going by literally every stat, stat card and visual that i have ever seen on him. Every single thing shows him as awful. He is very bad.
And nylander had 5 goals and 8 points in 7 games against him
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: noobmaster69
hilarious two sides of the spectrum - Mtl says no way and Leafs say no to much. I must be spot on with the value


Chariot shouldn't be worth a first (aka Robertson) but will probably get it.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
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Habs definitely decline
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Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Chariot shouldn't be worth a first (aka Robertson) but will probably get it.


I pity the team that pays it. But you're right.
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Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.
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Go leafs go
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Quoting: faulkmydzingel
I pity the team that pays it. But you're right.


Yes, it's been reported by multiple sources that he'll get a first.

It's also been reported that the leafs might get him...

I really hope it's not the leafs. That would be Foligno 2.0.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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Yes, it's been reported by multiple sources that he'll get a first.

It's also been reported that the leafs might get him...

I really hope it's not the leafs. That would be Foligno 2.0.


Its been speculated by like 3 dudes who havent been good at analysis in years that he could get a 1st. No one has reported it as fact.
And no one has reported the leafs might get him either. More speculation based on the leafs basically having interest in signing him as a bottom pairing d 3+ years ago
Also, foligno was actually good ar defence, unlike chariot
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:54 p.m.
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Go leafs go
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Its been speculated by like 3 dudes who havent been good at analysis in years that he could get a 1st. No one has reported it as fact.
And no one has reported the leafs might get him either. More speculation based on the leafs basically having interest in signing him as a bottom pairing d 3+ years ago
Also, foligno was actually good ar defence, unlike chariot


I'm fairly certain Elliot Friedman has reported both of the top ones. Speculation, sure, but Friedman is a creditable source.

Whatever... the point is the Folingo trade sucked.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I'm fairly certain Elliot Friedman has reported both of the top ones. Speculation, sure, but Friedman is a creditable source.

Whatever... the point is the Folingo trade sucked.


Nah, frieds was straight up speculating. Used words like "i think' etc. He's never been good at analysis but has sources. If someone said something to him legit he'd say so. He always says "i think" connecting any number of guys to the leafs every year and very very very few come even close to happening
Feb. 4, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Nah, frieds was straight up speculating. Used words like "i think' etc. He's never been good at analysis but has sources. If someone said something to him legit he'd say so. He always says "i think" connecting any number of guys to the leafs every year and very very very few come even close to happening


I hope you are right.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I hope you are right.


Any gm who has any comprehension of stats is gonna stay far away from chariot. We know dubas knows how they work and that's one of the reasons they targetted (and over paid for) foligno. He was really good defensively before he got hurt. That was basically a worst case scenario
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Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Any gm who has any comprehension of stats is gonna stay far away from chariot. We know dubas knows how they work and that's one of the reasons they targetted (and over paid for) foligno. He was really good defensively before he got hurt. That was basically a worst case scenario


It was an overpayment from day one (which you did acknowledge) but I agree Foligno was a good target. I agree the leafs won't get Chairot unless they are desperate.
Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
At least he can bring his team to the 2nd round.


I highly doubt the Habs are making it to the first round this season let alone r the second....
Feb. 4, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
It was an overpayment from day one (which you did acknowledge) but I agree Foligno was a good target. I agree the leafs won't get Chairot unless they are desperate.


They'd need to have 3 of their top 4 injured to be that desperate.
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