Scheifele maybe? Idk

Thats a tough question.

Schiefele has risen the bar quite a bit higher than Suzuki.

Bo Horvat maybe, josh norris

Thomas, Necas, Norris or other guys from the 2017 draft.

But since he's a Habs player, he'll be undervalued on here as usual.

Necas probably

He is a good young player with up-side but starting next year he'll cost 7.875 mil which if he continues to improve and becomes a solid 1C is fine - if he tops out at 45-55 pts and looks more like a good 2C then he looks a little expensive.

but just as comparable talent how about Jason Robertson

I think he will do better than topping 45-55 points: This year, he will probably have his worst career season at around 50 points. This shows he could probably get at 65-75 point range. Last year he was on pace for 60 points. Robertson seems to be fair comparable

Somewhere in this cluster of players....

Robert Thomas
Anthony Cirelli
Mason Geertsen
Jacob Chychrun
William Nylander
Drake Batherson
Noah Dobson
Joel Farabee
Maybe a A+ prospect from team that really needs a center
Pick-wise, probably not a top-2...maybe #4-6 range

I’d have to say Necas, Thomas and Norris.

I know there’s some here throwing Robertson’s name, but that’s a little rich considering he almost has twice the point per game average than Suzuki (granted Suzuki doesn’t have the team around him to produce good results, but system cannot be used as an excuse considering Dallas has an arguably worse one).

One of these is not like the others…

Lafrienere lol

I put Robertson and yes he's probably a better winger than Suzuki is a center but I think centers have a higher value overall - for example Dubois for Laine and Roslovic

Nah. Suzuki holds way more value than Laf

Yeah, but in that case the players are similar in production.

The season before they got traded, Laine had a 0.93 PPG average and Dubois had a 0.7 PPG average while being miles better at defence and having the better analytics. Robertson has a 1.17 PPG average and Suzuki had a 0.61 PPG average, and I’m pretty sure Robertson’s analytics are better.

If Robertson had worse analytics than Suzuki and was a 0.8-0.9 PPG average player then I’d tend to agree with you, but as it stands can’t see it being close.

Not interested in these.

Batherson looks like a PPG winger with a evolving game and Norris like a 35 goals 2-way center

Sens have Stutzle, Norris and Pinto at center, they won't need Suzuki and are happy with this center line.

Also St. Louis would be crazy to do Robert Thomas


That's even worse. Robertson is very high end


Robertson has 87 pts in 89 NHL games. Not even remotely comparable

Stars also have more offensive options than the Habs. Suzuki is getting premium opportunities that he wouldn't get on many other teams.

It reminds me of Kyle Turris in Ottawa, they didn't have any better option after Spezza was gone.

And before someone (stupidly) jumps on this, Turris was a 3rd OA pick and had real 55-65 pts seasons, not just pacing them

Turris unfortunately had his peak cut short by a nasty injury, referred as the "gumby incident". He was never the same player after that

Hmm not sure about this. I had this argument just prior the season so I asked a hockey community and this was the poll results :

Alexis Lafreniere vs Nick Suzuki
Discussion in 'Polls - (hockey-related only)' started by Xspyrit, Oct 11, 2021.

Who do you think has more trade value?

Alexis Lafreniere
102 vote(s) 63.8%

Nick Suzuki
25 vote(s) 15.6%

Habs fan - Nick Suzuki
9 vote(s) 5.6%

Habs fan - Alexis Lafreniere
15 vote(s) 9.4%

Rangers fan - Alexis Lafreniere
9 vote(s) 5.6%

Rangers fan - Nick Suzuki 0 vote(s) 0.0%



Lafreniere is still 20 y/o and was a recent 1st OA pick. It would be VERY RISKY to give up on him this early. You'd have to be pretty convinced that he will not figure it out

Look at what Dorion did with Zibanejad. He traded the 23 y/o 50 pts center right away when he became GM in 2016. Zibby finally broke out at 25 y/o and look at him now.

Suzuki is also still young and will continue to grow but IMO he plays a very mature game already and doesn't have a ton of untapped potential left. I see him as a good 2-way 65 pts center, could be a great #2 C on a contender.

I don’t like Laf .

I literally was thinking the same thinking except with wtf

Yeah a lot of people are losing faith in him. He still has time to turn things around but not trending well for a 1st OA pick

I still have high hopes in Byfield. I see flashes , he’s still a bit raw. But Laf doesn’t look special. Kinda funny thinking about all those 3 + 5 for 1 overall rumours

I really wanted Stutzle at #3 but either Raymond or Drysdale at #5. I must admit that Jake was the right choice, even if he's not in the NHL already like these 2

I seriously think we'll have the best forward and D-man of that draft.

Our first round was spectacular, getting Greig at #28 was also amazing.

Jarventie, Kleven and Sokolov in the 2nd round not too shabby as well (+ we used a 2nd to get Matt Murray as well)

Sens knocked it out of the ballpark

2021 on the other hand... lol

It was never about an actual trade. Habs aren't looking to trade Suzuki at all. It was about finding players with comparable values. At least that was more my interpretation of this.

Yeah I know but I agree it was worded poorly on my part lol

Batherson vs Suzuki

Young and healthy Bobby Ryan vs peak Turris

I can't compare Batherson with Stone like some do because Stone is actually a Selke level winger while Batherson probably will never be, even though his overall game keeps improving.

That being said, Batherson is actually higher end skill. His contract is 6 years x 4.975, he has HUGE value. Dorion better not make that swap. We could have Chris freaking Tierney as our first line center, I still wouldn't want him to do that


Norris with Suzuki is closer. While Suzuki is going to be the better playmaker, Norris is a top notch scorer. There's not many games I watch where I'm not thinking he could have easily scored at least 2 goals. It's a very rare skill and very hard to do at the NHL level, ask Cole Caufield

Norris has 30 goals in his last 60 games., if you don't count last game where he got injured early. I mean, Norris has similarities with Steven Stamkos. he won't be as elite of course but he's very high quality. It's closer but I'd still be mad if Dorion was making that swap.