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Created by: Sicarius
Team: 2021-22 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 2, 2022
Published: Feb. 5, 2022
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23$81,500,000$71,268,849$306,349$2,550,000$10,231,151
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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Feb. 6, 2022 at 12:09 a.m.
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you massively overrate the man and massively underrate the effects that go against us in this deal
Feb. 6, 2022 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
you massively overrate the man and massively underrate the effects that go against us in this deal


A top pairing LHD that makes 4.6 million for the next 3 seasons… hard to overvalue that
Feb. 6, 2022 at 1:50 a.m.
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I don’t like moving Sunny tho
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Feb. 6, 2022 at 2:27 a.m.
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No thanks.
Feb. 6, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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Replace Sundqvist with Perunavich
Feb. 6, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Sicarius
A top pairing LHD that makes 4.6 million for the next 3 seasons… hard to overvalue that


Top pairing. So you are overvaluing him. LOL
Feb. 6, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Replace Sundqvist with Perunavich


yeah no thanks keep him. He's regressed 3 years in a row. Not worth it sorry.
Feb. 6, 2022 at 8:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
yeah no thanks keep him. He's regressed 3 years in a row. Not worth it sorry.


Perunovich has regressed 3 years in a row? Isn't he a rookie?
Feb. 6, 2022 at 8:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Perunovich has regressed 3 years in a row? Isn't he a rookie?


Chychrun has regressed 3 years in a row. I'm a Blues fan
Feb. 6, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
Chychrun has regressed 3 years in a row. I'm a Blues fan


Thats a hot take, what is the basis of your statement?
Feb. 6, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Thats a hot take, what is the basis of your statement?


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not a top 2 defenseman whatsoever. Those average out the past 4 years.

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Difficult to actually make any type of excuse for this type of inconsistent for 1 and for 2 regressing play. You can't really say this is because of the team either because once I get my hockey viz back it will show that his play improved when certain players jumped on the ice. He would drop when they weren't on the ice.
Feb. 6, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
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not a top 2 defenseman whatsoever. Those average out the past 4 years.

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Difficult to actually make any type of excuse for this type of inconsistent for 1 and for 2 regressing play. You can't really say this is because of the team either because once I get my hockey viz back it will show that his play improved when certain players jumped on the ice. He would drop when they weren't on the ice.


Where exactly do you see regression outside of the most recent year?
Feb. 6, 2022 at 11:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Where exactly do you see regression outside of the most recent year?


specifically on the defensive end the inconsistency
Feb. 6, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
specifically on the defensive end the inconsistency

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Where exactly do you see regression outside of the most recent year?


he always regresses worse than before he will have a bad year make it up then be worse than 2 the last time he was bad all the way up until now. We need a defensive defenseman so Offense is pointless for us to look at
Feb. 6, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
specifically on the defensive end the inconsistency


I asked about the regression
Feb. 6, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
he always regresses worse than before he will have a bad year make it up then be worse than 2 the last time he was bad all the way up until now. We need a defensive defenseman so Offense is pointless for us to look at


You are trying to define a 23 year old defenseman as if he is anywhere remotely close to his prime. People did the same thing with Hanifin for years. Now he's excellent.

Just because a defenseman enters the league at 18 doesn't mean they will peak sooner than dmen that enter at age 23
Feb. 6, 2022 at 11:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You are trying to define a 23 year old defenseman as if he is anywhere remotely close to his prime. People did the same thing with Hanifin for years. Now he's excellent.

Just because a defenseman enters the league at 18 doesn't mean they will peak sooner than dmen that enter at age 23




There’s no real point in debating him. Every GM in the league would consider Chychrun a top pairing D and yet the armchair QB knows best.
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Feb. 7, 2022 at 12:24 p.m.
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There’s no real point in debating him. Every GM in the league would consider Chychrun a top pairing D and yet the armchair QB knows best.


Exactly. Who cares where other GM's might put him. We know his exact slot with the blues. That's all that matters. The question Army has to figure out is whether giving up all those assets is worth the difference between Chychrun and Parayko vs Mikkola and Parayko as the top shutdown duo. I say got for it, just dont get rid of Sunny. Stick perunovich in there instead.
Feb. 7, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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Exactly. Who cares where other GM's might put him. We know his exact slot with the blues. That's all that matters. The question Army has to figure out is whether giving up all those assets is worth the difference between Chychrun and Parayko vs Mikkola and Parayko as the top shutdown duo. I say got for it, just dont get rid of Sunny. Stick perunovich in there instead.


Dumb idea. Perunovich has way more chances at being great than you would get out of 3 years of Chychrun.

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There’s no real point in debating him. Every GM in the league would consider Chychrun a top pairing D and yet the armchair QB knows best.


Define a Top Pairing defenseman. One who gives up a bunch of plays on the defensive end and hasn't been anything on offense counts as a top pair defenseman? Arizona wants Eichel Value for him.Chychrun as more of a chance of becoming Karlsson than he does of being someone who fits as a "shutdown defenseman" he's never done that ever. Never has been that great on defense. Only reason anyone would believe he's top pair is because of the name. Same with Seth Jones. Plays like crap guess what only reason he got that much was because of big name.

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You are trying to define a 23 year old defenseman as if he is anywhere remotely close to his prime. People did the same thing with Hanifin for years. Now he's excellent.

Just because a defenseman enters the league at 18 doesn't mean they will peak sooner than dmen that enter at age 23


Hanifin provided better numbers overall with Carolina. He's too much of a risk. You trade them want they want Blues probably come out looking like dumb*sses like Buffalo was signing Jeff Skinner that big contract.
Feb. 7, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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The idea of getting Chychrun without having to give up Perunovich, along with getting rid of Scandella and Sundqvist makes this a must accept for the blues
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Feb. 7, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You are trying to define a 23 year old defenseman as if he is anywhere remotely close to his prime. People did the same thing with Hanifin for years. Now he's excellent.

Just because a defenseman enters the league at 18 doesn't mean they will peak sooner than dmen that enter at age 23


also the only year he was looking solid is the year with a condensed schedule and 5 of the 7 offensive lineups weren't very good which included everyone except Colorado and Vegas.
Feb. 7, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
also the only year he was looking solid is the year with a condensed schedule and 5 of the 7 offensive lineups weren't very good which included everyone except Colorado and Vegas.


Thats inaccurate, he just put up his most points that year, he was nearly as good the year prior
Feb. 7, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Thats inaccurate, he just put up his most points that year, he was nearly as good the year prior


again a condensed season where he played an injured St.Louis, San Jose, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Minnesota only 2 remotely worth saying any impressive stats would be vegas and colorado and that's moot.
 
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