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Apr. 29, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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All 3 draft picks in 2021 looking good
Apr. 29, 2022 at 9:49 p.m.
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Good for him
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Apr. 30, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Sounds like Fedotov will be signing with PHI over the summer. He wants to play in the NHL next year.
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Apr. 30, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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I like weight will be the next Ryan nugget hopkins
May 1, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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Jordan Dumais has produced more points than any other 17 YO QMJHL player since 04/05 Crosby. He's surpassed the likes of Huberdeau/Drouin/Lafreniere/Ehlers/Giroux/Dubois

He's going to be the steal of the draft.
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May 1, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Jordan Dumais has produced more points than any other 17 YO QMJHL player since 04/05 Crosby. He's surpassed the likes of Huberdeau/Drouin/Lafreniere/Ehlers/Giroux/Dubois

He's going to be the steal of the draft.


Isn't he tied with Huberdeau and Lafrenière at 105?
May 1, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Isn't he tied with Huberdeau and Lafrenière at 105?


Hasn't been updated. He had 3 points today.
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May 1, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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Hasn't been updated. He had 3 points today.


Not often u see him in the top 2 rounds in mocks.
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May 1, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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Not often u see him in the top 2 rounds in mocks.


Nope, he'll be a steal of a pick. I wouldn't mind if Montreal went off the board and took him with their early 2nd.
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May 1, 2022 at 11:09 p.m.
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Nope, he'll be a steal of a pick. I wouldn't mind if Montreal went off the board and took him with their early 2nd.

Or early 3rd...good buffalo pick since we don't have needs really, just need depth.
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May 2, 2022 at 6:05 a.m.
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Or early 3rd...good buffalo pick since we don't have needs really, just need depth.


I think he's a sleeper to make team Canada's U20 Team. I'm high on him if you can't tell. I haven't seen something as special as him since Mackinnon.
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May 2, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.
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Not often u see him in the top 2 rounds in mocks.


He's mostly in the late 2nd and early 3rd. Have him in the early 2nd, 34 I think.
May 2, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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He's mostly in the late 2nd and early 3rd. Have him in the early 2nd, 34 I think.


I wouldn't be surprised, he's had a crazy year that's better than most top 10 picks in the Q
May 3, 2022 at 9:08 a.m.
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Aatu Raty 1st point in the AHL


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May 3, 2022 at 9:18 a.m.
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I was so surprised to see him drop that far. IMO has legitimate top six upside and could be a real difference maker at the NHL level despite his size, he can flat out fly. Looking forward to watching how his game translates to the smaller ice.
May 3, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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I was so surprised to see him drop that far. IMO has legitimate top six upside and could be a real difference maker at the NHL level despite his size, he can flat out fly. Looking forward to watching how his game translates to the smaller ice.


Very boom or bust but that’s the type of player that should be picked in the 3rd-4th rd.
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May 3, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.
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I was so surprised to see him drop that far. IMO has legitimate top six upside and could be a real difference maker at the NHL level despite his size, he can flat out fly. Looking forward to watching how his game translates to the smaller ice.


Isn’t he “part” of the Marleau deal lol?
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May 3, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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Jordan Dumais has produced more points than any other 17 YO QMJHL player since 04/05 Crosby. He's surpassed the likes of Huberdeau/Drouin/Lafreniere/Ehlers/Giroux/Dubois

He's going to be the steal of the draft.


Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Not often u see him in the top 2 rounds in mocks.


Off my quick analysis he sounds like another point situation. Gifted player but his huge questions according to Dobber are his skating, size, and defence. It sounds like there’s serious concerns about his skating but hey; that’s a project worth taking when the kids got a rating of superstar potential.
May 3, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.
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Isn’t he “part” of the Marleau deal lol?


It was lol, but they also had two other opportunities to select him. I’ll never understand what they saw in Fusco or Schingoethe
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May 3, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Off my quick analysis he sounds like another point situation. Gifted player but his huge questions according to Dobber are his skating, size, and defence. It sounds like there’s serious concerns about his skating but hey; that’s a project worth taking when the kids got a rating of superstar potential.


I have 0 concern about his skating at the NHL level, not sure what Dobber is watching, but his skating is very good.
May 3, 2022 at 11:54 a.m.
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I have 0 concern about his skating at the NHL level, not sure what Dobber is watching, but his skating is very good.


It's his acceleration that there are concerns about
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May 3, 2022 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
It's his acceleration that there are concerns about


Yeah he's not an explosive skater, that's why I said he should be an early 2nd, not a top 10 pick
May 3, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Yeah he's not an explosive skater, that's why I said he should be an early 2nd, not a top 10 pick


Quoting: A_Habs_fan
It's his acceleration that there are concerns about


“ He has good speed and is strong on his edges, allowing him to quickly alter course in tight spaces, but he suffers from a lack of stride extension that could make his skating an even greater differentiator. Dumais has shown the ability to quickly identify his options and make a play but there are times when he can hold onto the puck a bit too long waiting for things to develop. His ability to escape pressure helps mitigate that issue at the junior level but he will need to improve that part of his game as he progresses.”

So maybe not a huge mark down but that’s their take which seems not too unreasonable in terms of criticism.

Still tho; I’ll be watching him closely since the more I gather the more interesting of a pick he seems. And as I said; Dobber still rates him nearly the highest star potential.
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May 3, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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“ He has good speed and is strong on his edges, allowing him to quickly alter course in tight spaces, but he suffers from a lack of stride extension that could make his skating an even greater differentiator. Dumais has shown the ability to quickly identify his options and make a play but there are times when he can hold onto the puck a bit too long waiting for things to develop. His ability to escape pressure helps mitigate that issue at the junior level but he will need to improve that part of his game as he progresses.”

So maybe not a huge mark down but that’s their take which seems not too unreasonable in terms of criticism.

Still tho; I’ll be watching him closely since the more I gather the more interesting of a pick he seems. And as I said; Dobber still rates him nearly the highest star potential.


This was a good profile on him also.



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May 3, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.
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This was a good profile on him also.





That you wink ? Guy seems to be new and has no name brand associated yet
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