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Feb. 19, 2022 at 11:25 p.m.
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Could they do that and then send him back to Michigan next year (assuming he's not ready)?

no, they’d have to sign him to his ELC, which makes him ineligible to play NCAA hockey (he’d go to the AHL if he’s not ready)
Feb. 19, 2022 at 11:40 p.m.
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Could they do that and then send him back to Michigan next year (assuming he's not ready)?


Good question, I’m not sure. Can’t he play in the AHL if he doesn’t make the devils out of camp?
Feb. 20, 2022 at 12:11 a.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
no, they’d have to sign him to his ELC, which makes him ineligible to play NCAA hockey (he’d go to the AHL if he’s not ready)


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Good question, I’m not sure. Can’t he play in the AHL if he doesn’t make the devils out of camp?


If that's the case I think he should stay in Michigan and dominate.
He would get top line minutes on a good Michigan team which would help his development more in my opinion
Feb. 20, 2022 at 1:26 a.m.
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Clearly I’m wrong about Slafkovsky… the results speak for themselves but I just don’t see it from solely the eye test
Feb. 20, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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Ummmmm what??? That was awesome 👏
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Devil
Could they do that and then send him back to Michigan next year (assuming he's not ready)?


Because Luke never played in the CHL he'd be automatically eligible for AHL games should the Devils sign him in the near future. I'd be curious what another year in the NCAA does for his game as a whole assuming that most of Michigan's firepower is going to be AHL or NHL-bound next fall.

Kind of a win-win: you either give him the premier minutes as THE guy in the NCAA or you continue to grow him step-by-step with bottom to mid-pair minutes in the AHL.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.
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Quoting: TheFlamingC
Clearly I’m wrong about Slafkovsky… the results speak for themselves but I just don’t see it from solely the eye test


Sounds an awful lot like Pastrnak during 2014. If memory serves he went into that draft expected to go in the mid-first but slid a bit because he didn't look all that explosive or complete.

Scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in hockey and it's also the most important. I don't know how Slafkovsky doesn't go in the top-10 this year and I think there's a case to see his name in the top-5.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
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Sounds an awful lot like Pastrnak during 2014. If memory serves he went into that draft expected to go in the mid-first but slid a bit because he didn't look all that explosive or complete.

Scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in hockey and it's also the most important. I don't know how Slafkovsky doesn't go in the top-10 this year and I think there's a case to see his name in the top-5.


Would be a great pick for the Sabres, if a Dman isn't available.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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Would be a great pick for the Sabres, if a Dman isn't available.


Just ran a tankathon sim just to see how that would look:

1. Philadelphia Flyers - (C) Shane Wright
2. Houston Coyotes - (LW) Matt Savoie
3. Montreal Canadiens - (RD) Simon Nemec
4. Seattle Kraken - (C) Logan Cooley
5. New Jersey Devils - (LW) Joakim Kemell
6. Buffalo Sabres - (LW) Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Ottawa Senators - (C) Conor Geekie
8. Columbus Blue Jackets (via CHI) - (C) Brad Lambert
9. New York Islanders - (LW) Danila Yurov
10. Detroit Red Wings - (RD) David Jiricek

It's feasible but I feel like there won't be a consensus going into this draft. I'm personally not thrilled with the first round talent of this draft.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Just ran a tankathon sim just to see how that would look:

1. Philadelphia Flyers - (C) Shane Wright
2. Houston Coyotes - (LW) Matt Savoie
3. Montreal Canadiens - (RD) Simon Nemec
4. Seattle Kraken - (C) Logan Cooley
5. New Jersey Devils - (LW) Joakim Kemell
6. Buffalo Sabres - (LW) Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Ottawa Senators - (C) Conor Geekie
8. Columbus Blue Jackets (via CHI) - (C) Brad Lambert
9. New York Islanders - (LW) Danila Yurov
10. Detroit Red Wings - (RD) David Jiricek

It's feasible but I feel like there won't be a consensus going into this draft. I'm personally not thrilled with the first round talent of this draft.


Seems reasonable.

Just imagining Phily getting Wright then still hitting and missing the playoffs lul
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 1:43 p.m.
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Does anyone have a playing-style comparison for Rutger McGroarty? Am I mistaken if I say Sam Bennett?
Feb. 20, 2022 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Sounds an awful lot like Pastrnak during 2014. If memory serves he went into that draft expected to go in the mid-first but slid a bit because he didn't look all that explosive or complete.

Scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in hockey and it's also the most important. I don't know how Slafkovsky doesn't go in the top-10 this year and I think there's a case to see his name in the top-5.


San Jose please land in the top 10 for this kid - everyday I’m slowly losing grips on any desire to see the Sharks improve down this stretch. Hertl I’m in different on trading or keeping - just a good deal (6 years) or a good trade either I’m happy with.

But we should consider fleecing someone for Barabanov he’s looking insanely good as a 2nd line option for any team - solid middle 6.

Sell sell sell - we could be so good with the amount of young talent we have.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Because Luke never played in the CHL he'd be automatically eligible for AHL games should the Devils sign him in the near future. I'd be curious what another year in the NCAA does for his game as a whole assuming that most of Michigan's firepower is going to be AHL or NHL-bound next fall.

Kind of a win-win: you either give him the premier minutes as THE guy in the NCAA or you continue to grow him step-by-step with bottom to mid-pair minutes in the AHL.


I think I rather him in the NCAA but it’s a good win win either way
Feb. 20, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
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I think I rather him in the NCAA but it’s a good win win either way


And maybe he jumps into the lineup after the 22-23 season once Graves contract expires
Feb. 20, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
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San Jose please land in the top 10 for this kid - everyday I’m slowly losing grips on any desire to see the Sharks improve down this stretch. Hertl I’m in different on trading or keeping - just a good deal (6 years) or a good trade either I’m happy with.

But we should consider fleecing someone for Barabanov he’s looking insanely good as a 2nd line option for any team - solid middle 6.

Sell sell sell - we could be so good with the amount of young talent we have.


I feel like the Sharks will pick Lekkerimäki if they're outside the Top 10 and he's available. I think that could work out great.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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Does anyone have a playing-style comparison for Rutger McGroarty? Am I mistaken if I say Sam Bennett?


I came up with Jamie Benn as a stylistic comparison. (Not today's Jamie Benn, but the Jamie Benn of a few years ago.)
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Just ran a tankathon sim just to see how that would look:

1. Philadelphia Flyers - (C) Shane Wright
2. Houston Coyotes - (LW) Matt Savoie
3. Montreal Canadiens - (RD) Simon Nemec
4. Seattle Kraken - (C) Logan Cooley
5. New Jersey Devils - (LW) Joakim Kemell
6. Buffalo Sabres - (LW) Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Ottawa Senators - (C) Conor Geekie
8. Columbus Blue Jackets (via CHI) - (C) Brad Lambert
9. New York Islanders - (LW) Danila Yurov
10. Detroit Red Wings - (RD) David Jiricek

It's feasible but I feel like there won't be a consensus going into this draft. I'm personally not thrilled with the first round talent of this draft.


I think this makes sense, I just don't see the sabres passing Jiricek at 6 unless he went already before our pick. For Scoring wingers we have, Quinn, Rosen, Thompson/Krebs, Skinner, Tuch, Peterka, Pultapov and Kisakov as top 6 potential dudes if all goes well. Right now Fitzgerald and Jokiharju are the only RD options.
Feb. 20, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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San Jose please land in the top 10 for this kid - everyday I’m slowly losing grips on any desire to see the Sharks improve down this stretch. Hertl I’m in different on trading or keeping - just a good deal (6 years) or a good trade either I’m happy with.

But we should consider fleecing someone for Barabanov he’s looking insanely good as a 2nd line option for any team - solid middle 6.

Sell sell sell - we could be so good with the amount of young talent we have.


Makes sense to sell, I don't see how in the next 3 years the Sharks could grow and become a better team than the Knight, Flames, Colorado, Kings or the Wild without selling and getting assets the next 2 years.
Feb. 20, 2022 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Just ran a tankathon sim just to see how that would look:

1. Philadelphia Flyers - (C) Shane Wright
2. Houston Coyotes - (LW) Matt Savoie
3. Montreal Canadiens - (RD) Simon Nemec
4. Seattle Kraken - (C) Logan Cooley
5. New Jersey Devils - (LW) Joakim Kemell
6. Buffalo Sabres - (LW) Juraj Slafkovsky
7. Ottawa Senators - (C) Conor Geekie
8. Columbus Blue Jackets (via CHI) - (C) Brad Lambert
9. New York Islanders - (LW) Danila Yurov
10. Detroit Red Wings - (RD) David Jiricek

It's feasible but I feel like there won't be a consensus going into this draft. I'm personally not thrilled with the first round talent of this draft.


Why so low on this 1st round? There might not be that one superstar but I see a lot of guys with Top 6 potential. Could turn out to be an above average 1st round.
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Feb. 20, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.
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Does anyone have a playing-style comparison for Rutger McGroarty? Am I mistaken if I say Sam Bennett?


Don’t do player comparisons but anyone who shows flashes of high-end skill but has consistency issues and can look invisible at times work
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Feb. 21, 2022 at 11:47 p.m.
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664782.jpg Hendrix lappy is on a hot streak right. Looking really really good.
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Can you tell I really like this kid
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Feb. 22, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.
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666g6s.jpg

Can you tell I really like this kid


You'd probably have to be a lot worse or win the lottery to get him but yeah, everybody should want him on their team. He's so good.
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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Would anyone else be interested in a common document that would have all the draft rankings that we like/have some value (even if it's a name most people hate like Craig Button)? I'm sure together, we could make a comprehensible list of all reputable sources, even if we disagree with them. There's probably at least 1 of us that has access to some rankings that have paywalls and that could accumulate to have a very expansive list of all opinions
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Feb. 23, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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Would anyone else be interested in a common document that would have all the draft rankings that we like/have some value (even if it's a name most people hate like Craig Button)? I'm sure together, we could make a comprehensible list of all reputable sources, even if we disagree with them. There's probably at least 1 of us that has access to some rankings that have paywalls and that could accumulate to have a very expansive list of all opinions


Seems like a good idea. A couple of my initial candidates for the document (aside from the mainstream ones like Button, McKenzie, etc.) would be: Smaht scouting, DobberProspects (not really unpopular), FCHockey
 
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