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2021-22 NHL Discussion Thread #14: Olympic Edition

Feb. 17, 2022 at 4:53 p.m.
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I also have a break starting once this school day ends


I will use this time to think of the capitals and relax.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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I am just curious, how would a non-Oilers compare Bouchard to Dobson and Boqvist. here is their stats for this season.

Boqvist: 34gp, 9g, 8a, and -11
Dobson: 41gp, 7g, 13a, and -1
Bouchard: 47gp, 9g, 17a, and +3


Bouchard has been putting up good stats while being on an Oilers defence that’s meh, Dobson’s been playing good on the Isles but he’s under Trotz so I’m not sure how that factors in, I’m sure Isles fans can comment on that, Boqvist has been one of CBJ’s best D’s but he’s a bit more sheltered than Bouchard, I’d say he still has the highest ceiling among that list
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Bouchard has been putting up good stats while being on an Oilers defence that’s meh, Dobson’s been playing good on the Isles but he’s under Trotz so I’m not sure how that factors in, I’m sure Isles fans can comment on that, Boqvist has been one of CBJ’s best D’s but he’s a bit more sheltered than Bouchard, I’d say he still has the highest ceiling among that list


Dobson has been as sheltered as Boqvist surprisingly
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Dobson has been as sheltered as Boqvist surprisingly


Weird cause Dobson has been playing 22mins in his last 5 games . That does not seem to be in the category of sheltered

Last year and the year before yes he was sheltered. Now not so much as when you play 22mins thats top 4 minutes.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: oilersguy
I am just curious, how would a non-Oilers compare Bouchard to Dobson and Boqvist. here is their stats for this season.

Boqvist: 34gp, 9g, 8a, and -11
Dobson: 41gp, 7g, 13a, and -1
Bouchard: 47gp, 9g, 17a, and +3


@Bobcat205 @Db1899 what do u guys think
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Weird cause Dobson has been playing 22mins in his last 5 games . That does not seem to be in the category of sheltered

Last year and the year before yes he was sheltered. Now not so much as when you play 22mins thats top 4 minutes.


His offensive to defensive zone start % was more what I was looking at, starting +60% of the time in the ozone, just like Boqvist.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Dobson has been as sheltered as Boqvist surprisingly


How is Dobson sheltered?
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
How is Dobson sheltered?


Quoting: aadoyle
Weird cause Dobson has been playing 22mins in his last 5 games . That does not seem to be in the category of sheltered

Last year and the year before yes he was sheltered. Now not so much as when you play 22mins thats top 4 minutes.


He's not, I wasn't reading the right stat. I thought I had 5v5 selected but it was actually all ice time when I was looking at zone %. Dobson's Power play time I think drags his offensive zone % start to over 60.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:25 p.m.
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Quoting: oilersguy
Bobcat205 Db1899 what do u guys think


Bouchard has been the better of the 3 this season at even strength because of his ability to drive play offensively, he’s been ok on the PP, pretty bad defensively. Hes already a top pair D, John Carlson 2.0 IMO

Dobson is above average at almost everything , he can drive play offensively , he’s pretty good defensively, solid on the PP. his elite skating ability allows him to draw a lot of penalties and he rarely takes penalties so his penalty differential is great. His style of play is similar to pietrangelo , overall his impact this season is that of a solid #3 defenseman, he’ll probably be the isles #1 by next season.

Boqvist has been very good offensively in a sheltered role this season, he’ll probably end up being an elite offensive defenseman in his prime. I don’t have a comparable for him but he has #1 D potential
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Bouchard has been the better of the 3 this season at even strength because of his ability to drive play offensively, he’s been ok on the PP, pretty bad defensively. Hes already a top pair D, John Carlson 2.0 IMO

Dobson is above average at almost everything , he can drive play offensively , he’s pretty good defensively, solid on the PP. his elite skating ability allows him to draw a lot of penalties and he rarely takes penalties so his penalty differential is great. His style of play is similar to pietrangelo , overall his impact this season is that of a solid #3 defenseman, he’ll probably be the isles #1 by next season.

Boqvist has been very good offensively in a sheltered role this season, he’ll probably end up being an elite offensive defenseman in his prime. I don’t have a comparable for him but he has #1 D potential

Carlson 2.0 shouldn’t be a good thing. Mike Green 2.0 sounds better. Also where do you get the data from
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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Carlson 2.0 shouldn’t be a good thing. Mike Green 2.0 sounds better. Also where do you get the data from


Evolving hockey
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
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Evolving hockey


Sweet and is it free
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Sweet and is it free


it’s $5 per month
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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Sweet and is it free


Actually they do have a section that is free, but you can only get basic stats + underlying numbers. No charts or anything like that
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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This is a fireable offense if Dubas gives up a 1st for Chiarot. They could use Kulak a lot more and he’ll cost a 3rd at best


Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:41 p.m.
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Carlson 2.0 shouldn’t be a good thing. Mike Green 2.0 sounds better. Also where do you get the data from


NaturalStatTrick is free and has a larger repository of data but doesn't have GAR or WAR stats.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.
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Apparently the Devils have a ton of interest in Brock Boeser

Canucks have interest in Pavel Zacha

Could see a trade go down soon
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
This is a fireable offense if Dubas gives up a 1st for Chiarot. They could use Kulak a lot more and he’ll cost a 3rd at best








I really hope I don’t have to post this again
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:46 p.m.
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I really hope I don’t have to post this again


FL1TKPqXEAI1FVw?format=jpg&name=medium

It looks great
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.
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FL1TKPqXEAI1FVw?format=jpg&name=medium

It looks great


No, it does not
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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Apparently the Devils have a ton of interest in Brock Boeser

Canucks have interest in Pavel Zacha

Could see a trade go down soon


Does that mean the capitals have interest in garland
Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.
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I really hope I don’t have to post this again


lol I don’t get it, he’s obviously a smart guy but Chiarot might be the worst fit for the leafs out of every rental available
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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I really hope I don’t have to post this again


Imagine giving up 2 first’s for about 20 games or so and 2 first round exit’s.

If that happens I can imagine Leafs fans losing their minds.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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I really hope I don’t have to post this again






So basically hes click baiting lul

I dont blame him as you put Maple Leafs in a sentence 10k views in a millisecond

And im not surprised in the interest

So many big competitive teams from Florida to Calgary all seem to have interest. He is the kind of guy to sign a cheap extension with his new team

Just makes 0 sense for us as hes a LD and we need a RD.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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lol I don’t get it, he’s obviously a smart guy but Chiarot might be the worst fit for the leafs out of every rental available


What @aadoyle posted


Click Bait
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