Stevie Y is not going to do Vegas this massive favor.

In the offseason Vegas will have a bunch more options, we need LD in Detroit and especially someone who can play some top minutes. I think Martinez could be that guy, if this is an overpay fine, it can be changed to a third. But I feel a few teams might be interested in some of their players and they could get returns on the right deals.

It'll still have to be a no from Dallas. Johnston is as untouchable as Edvinsson is to you guys, and I'm sure you'd rather have him over Hronek.

Trading would be a massive mistake considering we don't have that much offensive power.

I can understand that, I think the guy will be a stud hence why I keep going after him. If a deal like this happened maybe a guy like Bourque or Stankoven come back our way.

I think Bourque would be the most likely player to go back if we're to trade for a young top 4 RHD.

Maybe Stankoven, but I feel like he has better offensive upside. Johnston beats them both by a pretty big enough margin.

some solid and fair proposals here , well thought out . They definately will need a couple of vets to mentor the young un's , lots of promising D men in the Wings organization.

I haven't kept up with either of them much but they both seem promising so far.

How many teams can fit a 5M player right now? And how much does Detroit "need" a pricey reinforcement? They are 10th int he East in pts. %, a FULL .100 ppg behind the last playoff slot. There's no urgency to add there. Besides, I know you are aware of the Vegas situation. To give them that big chunk of cap space should cost. Stevie Y is no dummy or soft negotiator.

Stats this year are irrelevant as I have the trade taking place at the 2022 Entry Draft. At that time more teams will have more flexibility to make a move. I would love a trade to be made this year, maybe send them a fourth or something at the deadline, I'm just unsure of Stone's status and if he is going to get placed on LTIR.

I posted this last Friday ^.

They’re all very promising and I’m excited to see what they’re going to do in the future. It's nice that Dallas has started drafting well considering the mess in drafting from 2009-2014.

Or you mean the future of the red wings lol. Either way all 3 look promising so far, I hope the pan out.

Minnesota is going to wait so they can get a 2nd round pick.

Khudobin yuck

That's a yes from Caps, you could probably get some more from them.

This doesn't interfere with that.

Johansson becomes a UFA if he isn't signed by the Wild by June 22nd deadline this upcoming offseason. After that point, he is free to sign with whomever he wants too.

The poster is suggesting that Detroit sign him after the 22nd of June once he's available. That's it.

These trades are all pretty bad for Detroit. Can't understand any of them. Sets us back quite a ways. Dallas won't give up Johntson.
Adding Johansson would be nice.

Yeah but he can play a few games, give ned the bulk of the starts. There are better options out there yes but it would be part of acquiring a good centre prospect.

Don't understand what you don't get? Trade UFAs for picks, trade Hronek for a good centre prospect and sign a decent young RD that plays with Edvinsson. Trade a second for Martinez to add a decent vet to the d core. Adding Ferland just to hit the cap floor. Not too much happening here.

I didn't want to be too greedy, but maybe two seconds or a second and a third. Maybe a prospect instead, I would love one of Samsonov or vanecek but I don't think I sent good enough pieces to acquire one of them. Although I do see people trading them plus a first for Matt Murray.......

Signing Johansson would be nice. It's not a trade.

I don't think Dallas will trade Johnston unless they are the clear winner in the trade. Detroit can't afford trades right now where the other team is the clear winner.

I've always like Beaucage but I'm hoping we can bring in a 2nd for Namestnikov.

With the Capitals trade, I think we can get more trading those players piecemeal. I don't think we have interest in Copely or Kempny. We could have picked them up on waivers if we did. Kempny is basically a throw in to create space for Washington. Washington will most likely have to dump Haglin and Kempny.
Leddy and Griess with retention are good for the 2nd and 4th but if we are taking those other guys I think we should get more.

I don't personally feel Detroit should have to pay a second for Martinez.

Why are we doing Vancouver a favor for free?

Can't sign Johansson as a free agent had to make it a trade.

Dallas trade probably doesn't happen with Johnston but maybe Bourque or Stankoven, that seems like a good trade for both teams.

Martinez trade comparable to Leddy, in the off season there could be more suitors. I sent a second as we have a few in this scenario, I would really like it if it was less though. Just trying to be some what fair for both sides, maybe it's a couple thirds or just one or maybe a fourth does it, it's really hard to judge what his value will be in the offseason, if they look at moving him.

I feel beaucage has the value of a late second or third, I like the player as well that's why I went for him. Getting a second would be really nice but again just trying to be fairly even in value.

Capitals trade I think I can ask for a bit more in that deal. Kempny and Copley are both UFAs at the end of the season so them being thrown in doesn't hurt us at all. They can fill the holes left but Leddy and Greiss if a young guy isn't ready. I think if I make that two seconds it would be a good deal for both sides, Hagelin I think is still pretty decent defensively and can help with the PK. Also could use the cap hit to get to the floor.

The Vancouver trade doesn't really help them much as having him on LTIR doesn't really hurt them. I look at the Boychuk trade to Buffalo as an example, nothing went the other way. Like maybe we could swap picks where we pick a few spots ahead late in the draft or something as a little compensation. But all in all it's just a cap move to reach the floor in this scenario.

Sure they could conceivably happen with some Tweeks maybe. I just meant I didn't understand the need for them. Seemed like allot of work to not really move the needle much. I think if Hronek is traded is a clear upside trade like the Mantha trade. What exactly he brings, I don't know.
Didn't realize about the Minnesota trade.
My hope from Detroit, especially during the rebuild is savy trading that maximize our assets.

I think Hronek could conceivably be one of our best trade chips and I'm really hoping if they do decide to trade him its something like I got here. Return a good prospect and an equal pick that we used on him I would be happy.

Ya, I'm hope if we trade a legit top4 D we get a legit 2C at least.

I think you could get Vanecek in a deal like this, maybe if one of the picks was removed. But I'm not sure Greiss is that much of an upgrade to the goalies they have already.