I think this is the first VAN trade I think works out well for both sides, although I do expect some VAN fans to disagree.

Not really. Hoglander is on his ELC and Kapanen isn't. The idea is to make cap room not eat up more. Never mind that there really isn't a lot of upside to adding Kapanen. At this point he's just another guy.

I don't think Kapanen holds the value to get a 20yr old playing in his second season already, regardless of whether this makes sense for the teams involved. Kapanen's ice time has been dropping as he's falling out of favor in Pittsburgh and the points aren't there lately.

Pens fans won't like it but I think Dickinson for Kapanen makes a lot more sense. Their ATOI is similar, Dickinson is a year older, dickinson is a really good defensive forward and can PK but is a black hole offensively. Pittsburgh doesn't really need more scoring but they could use a defensively minded forward in the bottom six.

We have that entire 4th line that is a defensive/physical line. It's quite the opposite actually. We need scoring not defensive forwards

The trade making sense for either team is a matter of debate. The value is not.

If someone who consistently scores at a 15 to 20 goal pace and mid 40's points is "just another guy" then we can really end the conversation now.

What if the pens added a later pick? Say 3rd, 4th, or 5th?

He's been traded because Rutherford was trying to tinker, he traded him to Toronto, then traded to get him back.

Kappy is OK. In the context of trading a younger cheaper player with arguably more upside than him, for him, he is just another guy. Pens fans can’t trade him fast enough and that also speaks volumes. Downgrade in net, plus a more expensive player of marginally better value. Where exactly is the long term fit for Vancouver?

Kappy is OK. In the context of trading a younger cheaper player with arguably more upside than him, for him, he is just another guy. Pens fans can’t trade him fast enough and that also speaks volumes. Downgrade in net, plus a more expensive player of marginally better value. Where exactly is the long term fit for Vancouver?

So what you’re saying is that Boeser and Miller have no value because Canucks fans have made significant amounts of trades involving them? I’ve never understood the “well your fanbase keeps trading him so his value must suck” on a site that’s supposed to make realistic trades where there is value from both sides lol. And again DeSmith has a 3.03 GAA and .901 save percentage, Halak has a 2.9 GAA and .902 save percentage. There isn’t really a downgrade there 😂

Vancouver is a capped out 20th place team with essentially no prospects. For many fans, the ultimate path to a cup involves trading some of the older high end talent while their value is high to expedite a retool of the organization. Hardly the same situation. As for value, it’s not just calculated in goals and assist. For Vancouver, players on ELCs are infinitely more valuable than a player heading to RFA status looking to get paid. So while on paper the value might appear equitable, in Vancouver’s situation it really isn’t.

Ahhh as always…it’s the excuse for everyone else but us routine.