Lol. Might be time to move on from Muzzin

In the offseason maybe

Something like :
Rielly-Brodie
Sandin-XXX
Dermott-Liljgren

Yup that looks not bad, maybe even Niemela can do more than people think.

Honestly, I think next year is going to be a step back year for TO. Still a playoff team but likely not as strong as they are this year.

you have to put another pick in there to get rid of ritchie

TO probably will make some moves (Muzzin or otherwise) to stay in the top 5ish of the league. Dubas is on the same rope as Matthews contract. If they don't win by then I can see AM34 walking and GMKD being let go. KD will do everything in his power and spend all the assets he can to remain in the top while he has Matthews under contract.

Honestly I like the first trade. Not convinced Klingberg is the answer though. I’d rather spend those assets and Severson since he was term, and I think he’d be a slightly better fit.

Klingberg is not good

I am not so sure, taking 2 extra contracts has big value to Philly and they may like Ritchie there. He's not without value, he just doesn't fit TO at all.

I think they will do better in the playoffs than people want (the haters are desperate to see then fail) and after that I think some of this anti leaf nonsense will die down.

He is very good as well and a better long term move but it's a lot harder to make work and will cost more.

Add another second round pick to that deal and it's probably enough to get Severson 50% retained, I would think.

If that's the case I am down with that

I could be wrong, there's that one devils fan on here who think Severson (50% retained) will cost Neimela, Knies and a first round pick. But that's just my thoughts.

Yeah that guy is out to lunch

ritchie passed through waivers, he has no value

He passed through because no one wanted to add him without getting something in return. Opening up contract slots is not without value.

assuming they get two players back in a giroux deal (a prospect and a roster player for cap), they only need to clear one space and that'll be them dealing braun for a pick. plus the prospect very well might be behrens or helleson who haven't signed yet in which case just giroux is enough. it's not valuable enough to be worth taking on ritchie without an added asset IMO

i like the idea of getting gio in a muzzin trade and putting him on the right, wouldnt move a first, his contract is up in the summer, could resign him for cheap too

Flyers say no. Braun alone is worth a second and Brassard a 3rd-4th. If we are taking Ritchie it should be a 2nd and a 3rd

Brassard has no value. Philly apparently wants to get rid of some contracts and has interest in Ritchie. Braun isn't worth a 2nd. He's a 34 year old 6/7 defenceman.

He’s viewed universally as worth a 2nd and Brassard has played top 6 and look well and will serve well on your third line

On a bad team!!! Brassard would be battling Brooks for the 13th forward position and Bruan would be the 7/8th defenceman in TO. Being ok on a bad team doesn't make you great on a good team.

He was over a half point a game player at the start of the season when the Flyers weren’t bad. If you don’t want to pay the proper price for them then no deal