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if what puckempire said was correct

Created by: michaelost
Team: 2021-22 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 17, 2022
Published: Feb. 17, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal ($1,750,000 retained)
  2. Mayfield, Scott
2.
NYI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Palmieri, Kyle ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Varlamov, Semyon ($2,500,000 retained)
3.
NYI
  1. 2022 5th round pick (NSH)
4.
NYI
  1. 2022 4th round pick (STL)
  2. 2022 5th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Greene, Andy
  2. 2023 6th round pick (NYI)
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depth
5.
DET
  1. Durandeau, Arnaud
  2. 2022 5th round pick (NSH)
6.
WPG
  1. Bailey, Josh
Additional Details:
look. bailey sucks but teams are stupid and think that 21 points in 38 games is impressive so he could get back a reallllllly struggling player
7.
NYI
  1. 2022 5th round pick (VGK)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Parise, Zach
Additional Details:
i dont care what you think. every playoff team goes out and gets depth. its two 5th rounders for a great defensive veteran at 750k. dont complain
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2022
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22$81,500,000$73,090,855$1,365,854$1,957,500$8,409,145
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LW
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
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RFA - 2
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
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UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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RFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 6
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
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UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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UFA - 1

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Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:20 a.m.
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Leafs pass
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.
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Jets hard pass we have no need for Bailey and would put us in cap hell he also sucks
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:23 a.m.
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Raffl went for a single 5th last year, and Parise is not as valuable as him. I think he'll get a 6th at best, with Lou flat out refusing to trade him at worst
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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Think with each passing day Varlamov becomes less and less likely to Edmonton. Oilers value kosk expiring contract more because smith is still signed for another year and skinner has to be on the team full time next year. If islanders were willing to do the deal a month ago Holland may have done something but that ship appears to be sailing away.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Timmah007
Think with each passing day Varlamov becomes less and less likely to Edmonton. Oilers value kosk expiring contract more because smith is still signed for another year and skinner has to be on the team full time next year. If islanders were willing to do the deal a month ago Holland may have done something but that ship appears to be sailing away.

not what any news source is saying. theyre al saying talks are picking up. and holland has no idea what hes doing
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Raffl went for a single 5th last year, and Parise is not as valuable as him. I think he'll get a 6th at best, with Lou flat out refusing to trade him at worst


I’d like to know your reasoning as to why Raffl is more valuable than Parise because that makes no sense. The only way Parise won’t be moved is if he doesn’t want to be moved, there’s no chance of that happening because Parise is chasing a cup. Lou isn’t going to deny him a chance at that
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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Jets hard pass we have no need for Bailey and would put us in cap hell he also sucks


ehhhhh idk. Jets seem to be making a push and kinda need to win now with a few players getting up there in age. A forced trade for a forward or defenseman seems imminent
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.
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not what any news source is saying. theyre al saying talks are picking up. and holland has no idea what hes doing


Can only happen if smith is strongly considering retirement which is very questionable considering his personality and fresh new equipment he’s been wearing since his recent return.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:42 a.m.
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Can only happen if smith is strongly considering retirement which is very questionable considering his personality and fresh new equipment he’s been wearing since his recent return.


thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard lol. every news source is saying interest is growing and talks are picking up
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:46 a.m.
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I’d like to know your reasoning as to why Raffl is more valuable than Parise because that makes no sense. The only way Parise won’t be moved is if he doesn’t want to be moved, there’s no chance of that happening because Parise is chasing a cup. Lou isn’t going to deny him a chance at that


From my evaluation, Raffl brings more on ice ability to a team than Parise does. I can't measure locker room abilities so Parise could be more in that regard, but based on play alone I find Raffl to be much more palatable.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Raffl went for a single 5th last year, and Parise is not as valuable as him. I think he'll get a 6th at best, with Lou flat out refusing to trade him at worst


don't you dare put that evil out into the world, take it back
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard lol. every news source is saying interest is growing and talks are picking up


I haven’t seen a single local report in Edmonton about it all this talk seems to be to coming from sources that don’t cover Edmonton so I’d be cautious about expecting to see a deal come.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:48 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
From my evaluation, Raffl brings more on ice ability to a team than Parise does. I can't measure locker room abilities so Parise could be more in that regard, but based on play alone I find Raffl to be much more palatable.


in what aspect? Parise has been incredible defensively and while he does not provide much offense, he is the perfect depth player for a playoff team making a run. He can fill in on the PK and can play anywhere in the lineup. He creates quality chances and makes very few mistakes. He isnt a star player but hes what you want for a playoff team
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:50 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
From my evaluation, Raffl brings more on ice ability to a team than Parise does. I can't measure locker room abilities so Parise could be more in that regard, but based on play alone I find Raffl to be much more palatable.


Parise drives offense a lot better than Raffl and he’s good on the PP. Hes better than Foligno was when he got traded last trade deadline, Parise would return at least a 4th rd pick.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:50 a.m.
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I haven’t seen a single local report in Edmonton about it all this talk seems to be to coming from sources that don’t cover Edmonton so I’d be cautious about expecting to see a deal come.

all this talk? lol darren dregger and andrew gross are nobodies i guess.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 9:53 a.m.
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in what aspect? Parise has been incredible defensively and while he does not provide much offense, he is the perfect depth player for a playoff team making a run. He can fill in on the PK and can play anywhere in the lineup. He creates quality chances and makes very few mistakes. He isnt a star player but hes what you want for a playoff team


From what i've seen of both, Raffl is an upgraded Parise. I've seen great defensive ability, and I think he provides more offense than Parise. As a depth piece he is fine but looking at previous depth trades, such as Raffl and Stephenson (before we found out he was good), it seems that Parise would likely get no more than one 5th rounder.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:06 a.m.
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So Puckempire said the Islanders would overpay for Stecher?
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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I don’t see Edmonton doing that, however I would not be mad if we got Varlamov. Rather not get Palmieri though, and spend that cap, and or pick to upgrade our defence. If we got Varlamov, and Manson, we would be a very good team! I can see us getting Varlamov if Smith retires after this season, which I would be happy if he did, because I would love it if he became our goalie coach!
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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I don’t see Edmonton doing that, however I would not be mad if we got Varlamov. Rather not get Palmieri though, and spend that cap, and or pick to upgrade our defence. If we got Varlamov, and Manson, we would be a very good team! I can see us getting Varlamov if Smith retires after this season, which I would be happy if he did, because I would love it if he became our goalie coach!


thank you for being nice smile. i agree
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:16 a.m.
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all this talk? lol darren dregger and andrew gross are nobodies i guess.


Lol feel free to give me an I told you so if it happens.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.
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I’d like to know your reasoning as to why Raffl is more valuable than Parise because that makes no sense. The only way Parise won’t be moved is if he doesn’t want to be moved, there’s no chance of that happening because Parise is chasing a cup. Lou isn’t going to deny him a chance at that


when are people besides isles fans gonna realize parise is a really good 3rd line forward, and for league min
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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Lol feel free to give me an I told you so if it happens.


lolllll i will. your reasoning for why it wouldnt happen was cuz Smith just got new pads lol
Feb. 17, 2022 at 10:28 a.m.
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these deals are weird

-toronto gets Mayfield & Clutterbuck(with retention) to give us a 1st (probably in the 25-30 range) & Nick Ritchie's contract? Ritchie basically replaces Cal on the 4th line for a little bit less AAV but an extra year of term. I'd rather just hold on to Clutter at that point, let him walk, and sign a guy in the $1-1.5M range to play RW4 next year

-the Edmonton deal is probably fair value but if Mike Smith is planning on playing out his contract, I think edmonton has a three-headed goalie next year. if they want to give us Smith and his extra year instead of Koskinen, I could live with it - have Smith back up Ilya next year and then go away. I'd think that there might be tweaks to the picks/retention if you do that but the framework would stay the same.

-Chara/Greene/Parise deals are all fine, the exact picks back aren't important, i expect them all to be in the 4-6 range

-the Stecher deal is real confusing cuz that seems like a contender's move - trading a mid-grade prospect and a 5th for a UFA defenseman? I know you're replacing Mayfield with him, but I think you can either just bring Grant Hutton up to do that, or you can use a lot of the cap space you've freed up to absorb a contract from a team up against the cap. just a quick look at the contending teams show Tampa has Jan Rutta($1.3M), Calgary has Erik Gudbranson($1.9M), and Washington has Justin Schultz($4M) as pending UFA RD with cap hits that can be moved out if they're doing another deal.

-Bailey to Winnipeg wouldn't work without retention, or the Jets shedding cap somewhere else. I also think that the organization has some sentimentality towards him and wants him to get his 1,000th game in an Islanders uniform, which looks like it'll happen early next season (barring injury). Not saying I agree with them, but I can see them holding onto him through that at least.
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Feb. 17, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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Not really familiar with Derandreau. Stech is underated and I think would be a great fit on a playoff run. I'd like to think he is worth a decent prospect or a 3rd/4th now that he's healthy.
Feb. 17, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Stech is underated and I think would be a great fit on a playoff run.


which is exactly why the Islanders shouldn't be trading for him.

to answer your original thought, though, Arnaud Durandeau is a 6th round LW from 2017, he's just turned 23 and is playing ~okay in the AHL (7-17-24 in 44 games for an offensively-challenged Bridgeport team.) His upside is probably bottom 6 winger who might get some PP2 time, but it's hard to tell because all of his professional time has been wonked up by the pandemic. I think Detroit could do better than him+a 5th anyway.
 
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