kinda like that for MTL but what can studnicka become

Habs accept even without him, we paid a late 1st and a 2nd for him and were rebuilding so were profiting.

Are you kidding me?
Ya, he’s available because he isn’t good. Another third line center.

2nd round pick, absolute tops. Not worth his contract, bruins have zero need for a third line center, and give up the world to a rival to do it.

This is a truly horrible idea.

Habs accept for a 2nd and 3rd.

Don't understand how they would get more when he is one year older and had a worse season.

At this point he could a middle 6 player, he play with skill, speed, if well develop he could maybe be a average #2 center, or he could play at RW into a top6, he has potential he need play time with less pressure (MTL is perfect)

Dvorak is not a third line center

Which is more than you can say for dvorak

Plays like it, and always has.

I wouldnt take moore but i feel its an overpay for just a third line center i know a lot of teams on the west coast want him but no one will pay that

This poster just hears a name and gets tricked into whatever narrative is going around. He’s heard of dvorak a whole bunch because of last year, so all of a sudden he’s awesome.
I’m sure the guy doesn’t know dvorak has never scored 40 points, and never had 20 goals. I’m sure he doesn’t know he’s under a half point per game for his career.

He’s a $3M player getting paid more, and the argument could maybe be made he’s worth a second rounder.

At the same time - Bergeron is getting reeeaaaalll old, then you are down to Coyle and Haula - Judging Dvorak only by his injury plagued season with the habs is a bit shortsighted on your team's needs.

He managed to do great in ARI, and he has shown some great flash in MTL bertween injuries.

He is young on a cheap contract - this could be the last two year of competition... has you have no one to replace Bergeron once he retires.

I agree that package is a bit rich to say the least - but keep it objective my friend.



he is 26... he will be entering his prime... so that's a real bad take my friend. he is not on the bad side of 30 like Bergeron (which I love, don't get me wrong)

Yea i understand that a second round or maybe a prospect B/B+ but i would highly doubt that but again gm across the nhl sometimes overpay for a player then regret after

Just can’t overstate how incorrect all of this is.
To the first point. Bergeron is old. So? He’s a first line center. Is dvorak going to replace that? Absolutely not. If bergeron is gone the bruins are bad with or without dvorak. If thats the case, why ditch first round picks? Silly.

As for dvorak, I’m judging his entire career. He had one year where he was okay, but that was playing entirely in the crap pacific division.
Never 20 goals
Never 40 points
Not even a half point per game player.
He’s not cheap. He’s overpaid for what he does.
He’s not entering his prime. He’s well into it. A forwards prime tends to be 24-29.

The habs made a huge mistake overpaying for him. No team is going to bail them out of that.

"Kinda like it"

You gave up a 1st+2nd in 2024 for him, and he's been dreadful this year.

i’m being cautious so i don’t get thrown to the wolves
the only reason i wouldn’t like it is the hole at 2C

The hole at 2C is there with or without dvorak because he isn’t a 2C. Better to cut bait, use the assets and cap to find an actual 2C, and in the meantime, play someone younger who can actually turn into a 2C.

Oh they will definitely be able to get a first for him. Make no mistake. You got to keep in mind the kind of teams he has been playing on all of his career. put him on any decent team and he has a career year. You can see the skill when he plays - he just plays for bottom feeding teams.

Came from Arizona, to the imploding habs. Hell... you would put Marchand on the habs right now and he wouldn't crack 40 pts in a season. FKN Hoffman can't get a goal on the PP.... Hoffman whose sole purpose is to do that.

Y'all have been cherished in BOS for a few years - players in boston have been playing in a good system, with good elements and playing as a team - everybody contributes. On some team... players are on their own, but it doesn't diminish their skills.

But don't get me wrong -I agree this package is too much for him.

There's no reason for Winnipeg to make that trade.

Since you're getting enough responses as to WHY some of these trades should never happen, I thought I would reply to the line-up IF it were to happen!
Line 1: Marchand, Bergeron, Steen
Line 2: Same as you put here as I think a lot of players could succeed between Hall and Pastrnak
Line 3: Johansson, Coyle, Smith
Line 4: Same as you! They've been good recently!
All defensive lines look good. Having Foligno, Haula, Zboril and Schenn for depth and replacing injured players seems reasonable. I do like Studnicka and Vaakanainen and if there was a way to get these trades done and keep them, that would be a bonus!

Maybe. Maybe not. It’s not as simple as, “ohhhh if this guy goes to a good team he’ll be good.” It doesn’t always work that way. Actually, it usually doesn’t.

For example: The only season Dvorak looked like he was close to top six was last year…..212 in 5 on 5 points. It all came from the powerplay. Christian Dvorak doesn’t touch PP1 for a playoff team, so that offense just isn’t there.

He’s a third liner, and an okay one at that.

Yes he is, he's a younger version of Charlie Coyle....whose a 3C

Did Sweeney bang his head against a brick wall for 6straight hours prior to making this decision?

is the "objective" to get another 3rd line centre to play in the top 6? Bruins have plenty of those already.

Line 4 hasn't been a line for awhile now... So not sure how they've been good recently.