Leafs wouldn't do that trade in a million years bro

That Marner trade is just bad. No reason the Leafs would ever do it.

And the Ducks won't pay that for Risto.

If the Leafs go out in the first round, that PHI offer is going to look interesting, maybe not enough, but they are going to have to look at their salary structure.

Some interesting moves here....

While I don;t personally like the BOS trade, theres value there. DeBrusk will get more than 3.5mil. I think Klingberg gets more than 6mil, and I'd rather have a better insurance at 2C, than Frost.

Got plenty of picks, figured some would have to go back Toronto's way. However, if they get bounced again, they'll have to do something, and stomaching less cap space for 2 quality players for a luxury like marner, wouldn't be all bad. Keep doing the same thing over and over again isn't going to work, and it's not like productivity wise you're getting less than TK and Laughton so it's not like it's a horrendous trade at all.

Just a CBA thing you might not know - teams are only allowed 3 retentions per year, so you'd either eat one of those contracts at the deadline, or share the wealth with another team doing the retention for you.

The Marner deal is not happening like that, but I'd wonder if you'd have a better shot offering that package for Nylander? He's obviously a lesser player than Marner, but would still upgrade your first line wingers. You can also keep JVR's contract & avoid having to dump him and the pick with the $4M you'd save with that move. JVR's a UFA after 2022-23 and isn't a total black hole at this point, so it's not the end of the world to let him play out that deal.

The Chychurn deal feels like maybe an overpay? I can't get a feel for what Arizona wants to get for him, but I think a young roster player like Lindblom, a guy like Zamula who probably just slides into Chych's spot, and two firsts is almost like the Eichel package (I think you take JVR & the 2nd out of the equation because that's probably what a deal to dump his cap would look like). Alex Tuch is obviously better than Lindblom, but Peyton Krebs and Zamula are in the same ballpark as prospects, and then Vegas gave up a 1 & 2 instead of 2 1sts. I think Chych on a down year with a lesser track record than Eichel should return a lesser package.

Yes, but dude, TK and Laughton are not even close to the return they'd need. Do you realize Marner is a top 10-12 winger and is probably worth 3 1sts?

edit: double post on accident

There's plenty of reason's why they would do it but lets stick with Anaheim. A player like Risto, who last year it was confirmed that every team in the race was offering at least a 1st. a 2nd and a 3rd on a team that is overproducing but has a chance to get in the playoffs, why wouldn't they give up a 2nd and a 3rd? Especially if they will be in the 2nd half of each of those rounds, while also a guy like Risto can at least put a little fear in the other team with all of your young guys (Zegras, Milano, McTavish, Terry) buzzing around out there. Outside of Getzy who really lays big hits? I don't watch much I admit, but a 2nd pairing guy like Risto could be a great fit, without giving up a good prospect or 1st round pick. Also with the half retention you can make other moves as necessary.

I do understand that, what team is going to give you 3 firsts for him though? And even of that team, are those firsts gonna even be top 10? His value is for sure that, but are you going to get that return? Maybe you get a better player than TK, big possibility, but someone who produces as much as him at half the cap hit of Marner? You also don't think Marner's point production is a little skewed with his level of linemates? Same with TK playing with Kevin Hayes who is no where near a point producer like Matthews and Tavares, are. I don't think it's as far off, and to be honest, I think TOR could use a guy like Laughton. Can play up and down the lineup, play PK, and gives big energy. never takes a night off

The cap exists, so the Avs trade doesn't work as is. They also won't be dealing multiple D prospects in this trade. It'll be Jost/Compher + '23 1st + Barron/Helleson/Behrens/Ranta

No, the Leafs wouldn't do it. This is basically Marner for Konecny and Marner is a lot better than Konecny.

The Ducks were never in the race last year. They will be sellers at the deadline not buyers. Verbeek explicitly said that they are still rebuilding and I don't see how trading high picks for a rental 3rd (not 2nd) pairing Defenseman that doesn't fit into the lineup makes sense. The right side is pretty set right now with Drysdale, Manson and Shattenkirk. All 3 are better than Risto and the Ducks are on a downward trend anyway and I don't see them reaching the playoff, coming from a Ducks fan.

Who really lays hits? This guy (4th in hits leage-wide), Manson and Benoit (38th and 47th respectively). + The aforementioned Getzlaf

if that's the case and they can't move out any salary, if I were the Flyers the package I would take is Jost/Helleson and '23 1st.

I think both sides would agree to that. And if Braun were going to Florida, I think Joe would take a long look at that as well